[Frameworks] Trump Virus

Sun Mar 29 19:59:35 UTC 2020

Why?
MG

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Please do refrain from mixing U.S. politics into this experimental film international forum.
r.

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   1. Some new work from me (jaime cleeland)
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   4. Re: Trump Virus (Fred Camper)
   5. Re: Trump Virus (Scott MacDonald)
   6. Re: Trump Virus (Gene Youngblood)
   7. Re: Trump Virus (Lourdes Portillo)

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Frameworkers, I think we should all start calling it the Trump Virus. By his actions he’s murdering thousands of people. Lets go viral with this.

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Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 19:40:04 -0400 (EDT)
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Let's not, it's world-wide and giving it that name taints everything.

- Alan

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020, Gene Youngblood wrote:

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> Frameworkers, I think we should all start calling it the Trump Virus. By his
> actions he?s murdering thousands of people. Lets go viral with this.
>
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Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 19:10:47 -0500
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Trump Virus

On 3/28/2020 6:40 PM, Alan Sondheim wrote:
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> Let's not, it's world-wide and giving it that name taints everything.
>
> - Alan
>
Yes,

Let's not even discuss him here.

When expressing opinions about him elsewhere, I try to never use his
name. I also try to avoid insults in his style, though some are quire
fun, "The Orange Monster" and the like. I use 'the current American
president," "the current occupant," or similar. He profits, in a sense,
with every mention of his "brand." And we should not turn FrameWorks
into a political discussion group, or we could be swamped. There are
other places for that.

Fred Camper
Chicago

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Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 20:14:37 -0400
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Agreed. The president would profit from this--it would just confirm his way of dealing with people, as Fred says.

He is "successful" because he is great at drawing all attention to himself. He doesn't need our help.

Scott
Central NY

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 8:11 PM Fred Camper <f at fredcamper.com<mailto:f at fredcamper.com>> wrote:

On 3/28/2020 6:40 PM, Alan Sondheim wrote:
>
> Let's not, it's world-wide and giving it that name taints everything.
>
> - Alan
>
Yes,

Let's not even discuss him here.

When expressing opinions about him elsewhere, I try to never use his
name. I also try to avoid insults in his style, though some are quire
fun, "The Orange Monster" and the like. I use 'the current American
president," "the current occupant," or similar. He profits, in a sense,
with every mention of his "brand." And we should not turn FrameWorks
into a political discussion group, or we could be swamped. There are
other places for that.

Fred Camper
Chicago
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Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 19:06:14 -0600
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OK. Your arguments are valid.

On March 28, 2020 at 6:15:01 PM, Scott MacDonald (smacdona at hamilton.edu<mailto:smacdona at hamilton.edu>) wrote:
Agreed. The president would profit from this--it would just confirm his way of dealing with people, as Fred says.

He is "successful" because he is great at drawing all attention to himself. He doesn't need our help.

Scott
Central NY

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 8:11 PM Fred Camper <f at fredcamper.com<mailto:f at fredcamper.com>> wrote:

On 3/28/2020 6:40 PM, Alan Sondheim wrote:
>
> Let's not, it's world-wide and giving it that name taints everything.
>
> - Alan
>
Yes,

Let's not even discuss him here.

When expressing opinions about him elsewhere, I try to never use his
name. I also try to avoid insults in his style, though some are quire
fun, "The Orange Monster" and the like. I use 'the current American
president," "the current occupant," or similar. He profits, in a sense,
with every mention of his "brand." And we should not turn FrameWorks
into a political discussion group, or we could be swamped. There are
other places for that.

Fred Camper
Chicago
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Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 18:35:07 -0700
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Thats right!

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> On Mar 28, 2020, at 5:11 PM, Fred Camper <f at fredcamper.com<mailto:f at fredcamper.com>> wrote:
>
> 
>> On 3/28/2020 6:40 PM, Alan Sondheim wrote:
>>
>> Let's not, it's world-wide and giving it that name taints everything.
>>
>> - Alan
>>
> Yes,
>
> Let's not even discuss him here.
>
> When expressing opinions about him elsewhere, I try to never use his name. I also try to avoid insults in his style, though some are quire fun, "The Orange Monster" and the like. I use 'the current American president," "the current occupant," or similar. He profits, in a sense, with every mention of his "brand." And we should not turn FrameWorks into a political discussion group, or we could be swamped. There are other places for that.
>
> Fred Camper
> Chicago
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