[Frameworks] FW: New book: Experimental Film and Photochemical Practices

Brandon Walley brand500 at gmail.com
Tue Nov 3 23:56:59 UTC 2020


Thank you Kim for the pdf, even if unintended. It just strengthened my
resolve to buy a hard copy, which I will, so thanks for the discount!

Brandon Walley
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he/him/his



On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 6:53 PM Thomas Dexter <thomas.dexter at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Good grief. Who will be king of the molehill? This is riveting stuff as
> usual.
>
> Kim - thank you for sharing your book and for helping to keep
> analog/alternative/hybrid/experimental moving image work
> something that can be seriously discussed.
>
> I look forward to reading more than four pages...
>
> ~t
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 5:58 PM Bruce Cooper <brucecooper77 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Fred, don't put Chicago after your name  - you aren't worthy of that
>> city.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 5:48 PM Fred Camper <f at fredcamper.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ryder,
>>>
>>> I was going to reply to Roddy's idiotic post, even though I have
>>> generally tried to ignore him based on past experience, and thought
>>> better of it, but now you have (unintentionally) inspired me to enter.
>>>
>>> Respectfully, I disagree with you. In fact, I would like to see more
>>> criticism of things posted to FrameWords. Someone posts a video that you
>>> dislike; tell us what's wrong with it. We are adults; we should be able
>>> to take it. But don't talk about it unless you view all of it, and with
>>> care.
>>>
>>> The problem instead is that Roddy posted a review of a book based on the
>>> first four pages. He seems to be proud of himself for having read four
>>> pages and formed an opinion based on them. The amount of irresponsible
>>> disrespect inherent in sending such a critique to, what is it, a
>>> thousand people who are serious about film in all parts of the world, is
>>> mind-boggling. Why would anyone be interested in his opinion of the
>>> first four pages. Roddy, books often start in one place and end up in
>>> another, as you ought to know if you have ever read any. I would never
>>> post an opinion on the first four minutes of a three hour video, or even
>>> the first two hours of it. Someone who would write a critique on the
>>> first four pages of a book sounds like someone who is only more
>>> interested in broadcasting their own thinking than in learning from
>>> others.
>>>
>>> I have occasionally learned from books I disliked on topics that
>>> interested me, because the process of reading the whole thing becomes a
>>> process of finding out, through your own objections, what you think.
>>>
>>> The distinction I am making is important to me. Read a whole book, and,
>>> if you disagree with it, construct an answer, a critique, an objection.
>>> That is showing respect. Commenting on the first four pages is not only
>>> disrespectful, but moronic.
>>>
>>> Fred Camper
>>> Chicago.
>>>
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