[Frameworks] NASA footage from the 1967 Apollo mission

Wed Dec 8 22:16:14 UTC 2021

Nicholas, wow! That is some piece of history that you have there! I've been
looking into Photo-Sonics today and these cameras are fascinating. Do you
know if they were ever used by artists? Are you also an "active"
Photo-Sonics technician?

Warren, no, that's not what I am looking for but thank you for that idea.

I was just rereading some work on Belson by MacDonald (CC3) and Youngblood
(Exp Cin) and it looks like JB used stock footage on "Re-entry" and
"Momentum." For "Re-entry," Belson says that, "[...] You wouldn't recognize
it, but there's a shot of the earth rolling by, as seen from a camera in a
rocket" ("Expanded Cinema" P. 166).  He also uses audio from Glenn's radio
conversation from his spacecraft to earth.

For "Momentum," GYB writes, "[i]t begins with stock footage of a Saturn
rocket whose afterburners blaze in rainbow fury" ("Expanded Cinema" P. 176).

I haven't seen either of these films in over 20 years so I don't know if it
is Belson's work that I was thinking of, but, does anyone here know? If it
isn't the exact image sequence I am thinking about, can anyone tell me more
about Belson's (or any of the West Coast experimental "animators") use of
NASA or JPL footage?

Thank you, Jared

On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 2:07 PM Adam Hyman <adam at lafilmforum.org> wrote:

> That’s not from the 60s or 70s.
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> On 12/8/21, 10:54 AM, "Frameworks on behalf of Warren Cockerham" <
> frameworks-bounces at film-gallery.org on behalf of warrencockerham at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Is it Penny Lane’s THE VOYAGERS?
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> On Dec 8, 2021, at 1:41 PM, Nicholas Kovats <nkovats at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi Jared.
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> I can't help you with the title but I could not help mention that I
> actually have one of the stage cameras used by NASA to briefly film the
> jettison of the Apollo stages. A tiny indestructible Photo-Sonics 16mm
> camera weirdly shaped  with a tiny 50 ft daylight spool capacity. I suspect
> I could throw the camera off a building and the 50ft magazine would remain
> intact. I am aware of two others owned by the last remaining 'active'
> Photo-Sonics tech in the US.
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> :)
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> On Tue, 7 Dec 2021 at 23:27, jared ashburn <ashburn.jared at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> I'm sorry, I don't know what happened to the text in that email. This is
> my question:
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> Can anyone remember the title of an experimental film from the late 60s or
> 70s that uses a few seconds of NASA footage from the 1967 Apollo mission?
> I'm not quite sure how to describe this footage but it is "the jettison of
> the interstage ring, or skirt." The moment I am talking about occurs at
> 2:23 and it'll probably look familiar to you.
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieIqGedO-zg&t=21s
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> On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 9:01 PM jared ashburn <ashburn.jared at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Dear Frameworkers,
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> Can anyone remember the title of an experimental film from the late 60s or
> 70s that uses a few seconds of
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> ? I'm not quite sure how to describe this footage but it is "the jettison
> of the interstage ring, or skirt." The moment I am talking about occurs at
> 2:23 and it'll probably look familiar to you.
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieIqGedO-zg&t=21s
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> I do remember that Marker uses a few seconds of this same footage in "Sans
> Soleil." It looks like this:
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> Thank you. -Jared
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