[Frameworks] critiques?

mary billyou mbillyou at gmail.com
Thu Jan 28 21:16:14 UTC 2021


If anyone is interested in participating a critique series I'd be up for
facilitating!

Mary

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021, 11:45 PM Chris Freeman <
christopherbriggsfreeman at gmail.com> wrote:

> Go to grad school lulz :)
>
> But seriously getting good substantial critique outside of an academic
> environment is tough.
>
> I've known people that have set up critique groups to get together and
> view work in progress.  That can be helpful and a good community-building
> project.  It's all going to depend on what those people bring though - how
> deep can they go with the language or art or filmmaking?  There's a bit of
> a skill involved in critiquing and giving useful feedback that not everyone
> is going to have.  That "rad, dude" person may have much deeper thoughts
> about your work but may never have been taught how to put them into words.
>
> I used to run a sort of "open mic" experimental night at a local art house
> theater.  People brought their short films on a thumb drive before the
> screening, we loaded them up and watched them, then had Q&A afterwards -
> and continued it across the street at the bar afterwards.  I don't remember
> it going super deep, but again something like that can be a community
> builder and a start to finding the people whose opinions you trust.
> Something like that is not possible right now, but if you are the type who
> might be interested in programming community events, that could be an
> opportunity after covid.  Or start it now with a virtual thing.
>
> Also you could try to set up studio visits / work in progress screenings
> with filmmakers in your community, film professors, any locals that run
> screenings or film festivals.  You never know who might take you up on it.
> Again, find the people who you think will give useful feedback.  Or try it
> virtually so you aren't tied to just locals.  Look at the program from any
> past screenings or film festivals you might have been in and hit up the
> other filmmakers that were screened - "Hey we were in that film festival
> together, I really liked your work, would you mind taking a look at my
> upcoming film?"  It'll be hit or miss if it's cold calling, but try for the
> people you talked to at any past events.
>
> Or sometimes there are residencies or short-term things run by arts
> organizations you can apply for that are like an academic environment, but
> without all the student loan debt.
>
> Take a class if there are any local institutions that do film or media,
> maybe continuing ed / community ed classes at a college, or at local arts
> organizations.  Or maybe there are some available online these days.
>
> Also have some questions for people you are showing the work to.  Are you
> trying to get a sense of how the pacing is working?  How natural the dialog
> sounds?  How the glitch effects reinforce the theme?  The more specific,
> open-ended questions you can come up with, the more conversation you'll
> spark.
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 6:56 PM John Muse <jmuse at sonic.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi, Michael.  I’ve found crits (even with friends!) to be most useful
>> when a., folks are in a room (or Zoom) together and can really talk through
>> their experience with you; b., you prepare a few questions in advance,
>> which can be thematic or technical, about the topic or the formal issues or
>> their entanglement; c., you can offer different cuts (of a few sequences,
>> of approaches to sound design, of color correction) for comparison; d.,
>> there are snacks!
>>
>> It can be hard to explain the idea of a “rough cut” or “work in progress”
>> or “temp music” or “temp titles” to people who aren’t makers and steeped in
>> the lore, but you can frame things and focus everyone’s attention on the
>> things that really matter to you.
>>
>> Hope this helps!
>>
>> j
>>
>> > On Jan 27, 2021, at 8:07 PM, Michael Campos-Quinn <
>> michaelcamposquinn at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I'm curious to hear what anyone would suggest for getting critical
>> feedback on works in progress beyond sharing with friends. There are so
>> many different aesthetic interests and even politics so there's no single
>> answer, but I've found myself looking for something between "rad, dude" and
>> crickets.
>> >
>> > Any suggestions would be super appreciated!
>> >
>> > Best wishes to you all,
>> > Michael Campos-Quinn
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