[Frameworks] Frameworks Digest, Vol 8, Issue 3
Jonathan Walley
walleyj at denison.edu
Sat Mar 6 06:56:48 CST 2021
I hereby relinquish all rights to the title “The Global Hayseed” to anyone wishing to use it. Just thank me in a footnote.
> On Mar 5, 2021, at 1:11 PM, Michael Sicinski <mjsicinski at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Jonathan, I hope you, or I, or someone writes a book entitled "The Global Hayseed." It's just so evocative.
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> 1. Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions (Jay Hudson)
> 2. Re: Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions (Beebe, Roger W.)
> 3. Re: Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions (Larry Urbanski)
> 4. Re: Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions (Scott Dorsey)
> 5. Re: Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions (Matt Shaw)
> 6. Re: Difference between (Jonathan Walley)
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jay Hudson <jkh30003 at gmail.com <mailto:jkh30003 at gmail.com>>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org <mailto:frameworks at film-gallery.org>>
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> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2021 20:35:00 -0500
> Subject: [Frameworks] Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions
> I have two issues with an Eiki SL-0 that I need help with:
>
> First, a common issue. The rubber around the lens has disintegrated. I recall the advice was to get 'surgical tubing' and wrap it around the lens in layers until it is thick enough. What exactly is the tubing that people are referring to?
>
> Secondly, the projector makes a horrible rattling noise when it runs forward. Inside the projector, as a part of the bottom axle of the feed arm, there are two cup-shaped gears. Below that, there is a piece that looks like an upside down comma. When I run the projector in reverse, the comma piece moves up and presses the cup shape gears together. Run forward, the comma piece does not move. This is what creates the rattling sound. If I press the cup shaped gears together manually, there is no rattling sound. Until recently, I hadn't used the projector in years. It never used to have this problem. Any ideas with what is going on and how to fix it?
>
> If anyone has any ideas, I would appreciate it highly if they could share them.
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Beebe, Roger W." <beebe.77 at osu.edu <mailto:beebe.77 at osu.edu>>
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> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 01:41:19 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions
> Jay,
>
>
>
> The focus issue is really easy to fix—it takes me less than 30 minutes now (after doing it a dozen times). I use shrink tubing like this:
>
>
>
> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Commercial-Electric-4-in-Length-Heat-Shrink-Tubing-Assortment-1-8-in-3-16-in-and-1-4-in-HST-AST/100166440 <https://www.homedepot.com/p/Commercial-Electric-4-in-Length-Heat-Shrink-Tubing-Assortment-1-8-in-3-16-in-and-1-4-in-HST-AST/100166440>
>
>
> I do the variety pack, because I use a slightly smaller gauge for a first layer or two & then a slightly larger one. Pretty sure I just do three layers total, but it’s been a minute since I last did it. (I had much more limited success with other kinds of tubing that didn’t grip as tightly.)
>
>
>
> As for the second problem, I actually have the same issue on a Bell & Howell 3580 that I’m looking at with a mechanical genius friend next week. I can update you if I figure it out, but if there’s someone out there who already knows the answer, I’m all ears!
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Roger
>
>
>
> From: Frameworks <frameworks-bounces at film-gallery.org <mailto:frameworks-bounces at film-gallery.org>> on behalf of Jay Hudson <jkh30003 at gmail.com <mailto:jkh30003 at gmail.com>>
> Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org <mailto:frameworks at film-gallery.org>>
> Date: Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 8:36 PM
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org <mailto:frameworks at film-gallery.org>>
> Subject: [Frameworks] Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions
>
>
>
> I have two issues with an Eiki SL-0 that I need help with:
>
>
>
> First, a common issue. The rubber around the lens has disintegrated. I recall the advice was to get 'surgical tubing' and wrap it around the lens in layers until it is thick enough. What exactly is the tubing that people are referring to?
>
>
>
> Secondly, the projector makes a horrible rattling noise when it runs forward. Inside the projector, as a part of the bottom axle of the feed arm, there are two cup-shaped gears. Below that, there is a piece that looks like an upside down comma. When I run the projector in reverse, the comma piece moves up and presses the cup shape gears together. Run forward, the comma piece does not move. This is what creates the rattling sound. If I press the cup shaped gears together manually, there is no rattling sound. Until recently, I hadn't used the projector in years. It never used to have this problem. Any ideas with what is going on and how to fix it?
>
>
>
> If anyone has any ideas, I would appreciate it highly if they could share them.
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Larry Urbanski <larryu at urbanskifilm.com <mailto:larryu at urbanskifilm.com>>
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> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2021 20:47:28 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions
> For the focus knob issue I made a video how I fix it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdNahj6tcks <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdNahj6tcks>
> For the rattling sound you have to disassemble all the gears from the bottom shaft of the feed arm and lubricate the shaft with a good grease. The gears rotate on the shaft and when the shaft gets dry it makes that terrible sound in forward. Once lubricated it will be quiet.
> Larry Urbanski
>
> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 7:42 PM Beebe, Roger W. <beebe.77 at osu.edu <mailto:beebe.77 at osu.edu>> wrote:
> Jay,
>
>
>
> The focus issue is really easy to fix—it takes me less than 30 minutes now (after doing it a dozen times). I use shrink tubing like this:
>
>
>
> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Commercial-Electric-4-in-Length-Heat-Shrink-Tubing-Assortment-1-8-in-3-16-in-and-1-4-in-HST-AST/100166440 <https://www.homedepot.com/p/Commercial-Electric-4-in-Length-Heat-Shrink-Tubing-Assortment-1-8-in-3-16-in-and-1-4-in-HST-AST/100166440>
>
>
> I do the variety pack, because I use a slightly smaller gauge for a first layer or two & then a slightly larger one. Pretty sure I just do three layers total, but it’s been a minute since I last did it. (I had much more limited success with other kinds of tubing that didn’t grip as tightly.)
>
>
>
> As for the second problem, I actually have the same issue on a Bell & Howell 3580 that I’m looking at with a mechanical genius friend next week. I can update you if I figure it out, but if there’s someone out there who already knows the answer, I’m all ears!
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Roger
>
>
>
> From: Frameworks <frameworks-bounces at film-gallery.org <mailto:frameworks-bounces at film-gallery.org>> on behalf of Jay Hudson <jkh30003 at gmail.com <mailto:jkh30003 at gmail.com>>
> Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org <mailto:frameworks at film-gallery.org>>
> Date: Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 8:36 PM
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org <mailto:frameworks at film-gallery.org>>
> Subject: [Frameworks] Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions
>
>
>
> I have two issues with an Eiki SL-0 that I need help with:
>
>
>
> First, a common issue. The rubber around the lens has disintegrated. I recall the advice was to get 'surgical tubing' and wrap it around the lens in layers until it is thick enough. What exactly is the tubing that people are referring to?
>
>
>
> Secondly, the projector makes a horrible rattling noise when it runs forward. Inside the projector, as a part of the bottom axle of the feed arm, there are two cup-shaped gears. Below that, there is a piece that looks like an upside down comma. When I run the projector in reverse, the comma piece moves up and presses the cup shape gears together. Run forward, the comma piece does not move. This is what creates the rattling sound. If I press the cup shaped gears together manually, there is no rattling sound. Until recently, I hadn't used the projector in years. It never used to have this problem. Any ideas with what is going on and how to fix it?
>
>
>
> If anyone has any ideas, I would appreciate it highly if they could share them.
>
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> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2021 21:53:42 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions
> Larry is entirely correct about lubricating the cam gears BUT... if that is
> a problem, likely you have a lot of other lubrication issues that are going
> to appear soon. Get yourself a bottle of turbine oil and a tube of white
> grease and go through the full lubrication procedure in the manual. Make
> SURE to lube the intermittent properly because it will destroy itself if it
> runs dry.
>
> The slot load mechanism has a lot of things that can get balky if they are
> not kept clean and lubricated, and it can shred your film very badly if it
> starts acting up. Go through the whole lubrication.
> --scott
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> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2021 13:13:16 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions
> I'm about to have my EIKI SSL-0 back from Dwight at the Boston Connection for many of the same issues. I had tinkered with fixing the issues on my own, but they persisted, after purchasing the projector from someone who had it in a closet for 30 years.
>
> It was nice to invest in the tune-up, even if it meant a delay in processing some film/buying more film stock.
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> http://cutfilm.com <http://cutfilm.com/>
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> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:53 PM, Scott Dorsey <kludge at panix.com <mailto:kludge at panix.com>> wrote:
>
> > Larry is entirely correct about lubricating the cam gears BUT... if that is
> > a problem, likely you have a lot of other lubrication issues that are going
> > to appear soon. Get yourself a bottle of turbine oil and a tube of white
> > grease and go through the full lubrication procedure in the manual. Make
> > SURE to lube the intermittent properly because it will destroy itself if it
> > runs dry.
> >
> > The slot load mechanism has a lot of things that can get balky if they are
> > not kept clean and lubricated, and it can shred your film very badly if it
> > starts acting up. Go through the whole lubrication.
> > --scott
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> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 08:31:37 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Difference between
> Hello Jimbo,
>
> I thought about Uncle Josh, or country rube, or “provincial.” All sound pretty impolite. But the extreme reaction of Uncle Josh is what I hope for from my students when they first encounter avant-garde/experimental cinema - not so much the leaping into the screen, but certainly a strong emotional reaction that leaves them disoriented.
>
> Using the term “hayseed,” I didn’t really have in mind anyone from a specific region, as being from an urban environment doesn’t make a student any more likely to have seen experimental films before coming to college. Lately I’ve heard about the “global south” and the “global north,” a new variant on industrialized vs. non-industrialized, elite vs. marginal, etc., which projects the more regionally specific north/south distinction onto the world in general. Perhaps we need a term like “the global hayseed.”
>
> JW
>
>> On Mar 2, 2021, at 3:31 PM, James Kreul <kreulj at gmail.com <mailto:kreulj at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> [I know “hayseed” is impolite, but I just mean it as blanket term for innocent eyes, and after all, I do teach in Ohio].
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>> Jonathan,
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>> Perhaps the film-historical reference that would be a bit more polite would be "Uncle Josh," referencing "Uncle Josh at the Moving Picture Show." Unless, of course, you believe that Uncle Josh is a "hayseed," as suggested by the British original, "The Countryman and the Cinematograph."
>>
>> Jim K.
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