[Frameworks] Frameworks Digest, Vol 8, Issue 3

Fri Mar 5 18:11:00 UTC 2021

Jonathan, I hope you, or I, or someone writes a book entitled "The Global
Hayseed." It's just so evocative.
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>    1. Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions (Jay Hudson)
>    2. Re: Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions (Beebe, Roger W.)
>    3. Re: Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions (Larry Urbanski)
>    4. Re: Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions (Scott Dorsey)
>    5. Re: Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions (Matt Shaw)
>    6. Re: Difference between (Jonathan Walley)
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>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jay Hudson <jkh30003 at gmail.com>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2021 20:35:00 -0500
> Subject: [Frameworks] Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions
> I have two issues with an Eiki SL-0 that I need help with:
>
> First, a common issue.  The rubber around the lens has disintegrated.  I
> recall the advice was to get 'surgical tubing' and wrap it around the lens
> in layers until it is thick enough.   What exactly is the tubing that
> people are referring to?
>
> Secondly, the projector makes a horrible rattling noise when it runs
> forward.  Inside the projector, as a part of the bottom axle of the feed
> arm, there are two cup-shaped gears.  Below that, there is a piece that
> looks like an upside down comma.  When I run the projector in reverse, the
> comma piece moves up and presses the cup shape gears together.  Run
> forward, the comma piece does not move.  This is what creates the rattling
> sound.  If I press the cup shaped gears together manually, there is no
> rattling sound.  Until recently, I hadn't used the projector in years.  It
> never used to have this problem.  Any ideas with what is going on and how
> to fix it?
>
> If anyone has any ideas, I would appreciate it highly if they could share
> them.
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Beebe, Roger W." <beebe.77 at osu.edu>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 01:41:19 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions
>
> Jay,
>
>
>
> The focus issue is really easy to fix—it takes me less than 30 minutes now
> (after doing it a dozen times).  I use shrink tubing like this:
>
>
>
>
> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Commercial-Electric-4-in-Length-Heat-Shrink-Tubing-Assortment-1-8-in-3-16-in-and-1-4-in-HST-AST/100166440
>
>
>
> I do the variety pack, because I use a slightly smaller gauge for a first
> layer or two & then a slightly larger one.  Pretty sure I just do three
> layers total, but it’s been a minute since I last did it.  (I had much more
> limited success with other kinds of tubing that didn’t grip as tightly.)
>
>
>
> As for the second problem, I actually have the same issue on a Bell &
> Howell 3580 that I’m looking at with a mechanical genius friend next week.
> I can update you if I figure it out, but if there’s someone out there who
> already knows the answer, I’m all ears!
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Roger
>
>
>
> *From: *Frameworks <frameworks-bounces at film-gallery.org> on behalf of Jay
> Hudson <jkh30003 at gmail.com>
> *Reply-To: *Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org
> >
> *Date: *Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 8:36 PM
> *To: *Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org>
> *Subject: *[Frameworks] Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions
>
>
>
> I have two issues with an Eiki SL-0 that I need help with:
>
>
>
> First, a common issue.  The rubber around the lens has disintegrated.  I
> recall the advice was to get 'surgical tubing' and wrap it around the lens
> in layers until it is thick enough.   What exactly is the tubing that
> people are referring to?
>
>
>
> Secondly, the projector makes a horrible rattling noise when it runs
> forward.  Inside the projector, as a part of the bottom axle of the feed
> arm, there are two cup-shaped gears.  Below that, there is a piece that
> looks like an upside down comma.  When I run the projector in reverse, the
> comma piece moves up and presses the cup shape gears together.  Run
> forward, the comma piece does not move.  This is what creates the rattling
> sound.  If I press the cup shaped gears together manually, there is no
> rattling sound.  Until recently, I hadn't used the projector in years.  It
> never used to have this problem.  Any ideas with what is going on and how
> to fix it?
>
>
>
> If anyone has any ideas, I would appreciate it highly if they could share
> them.
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Larry Urbanski <larryu at urbanskifilm.com>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2021 20:47:28 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions
> For the focus knob issue I made a video how I fix it.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdNahj6tcks
> For the rattling sound you have to disassemble all the gears from the
> bottom shaft of the feed arm and lubricate the shaft with a good grease.
> The gears rotate on the shaft and when the shaft gets dry it makes that
> terrible sound in forward. Once lubricated it will be quiet.
> Larry Urbanski
>
> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 7:42 PM Beebe, Roger W. <beebe.77 at osu.edu> wrote:
>
>> Jay,
>>
>>
>>
>> The focus issue is really easy to fix—it takes me less than 30 minutes
>> now (after doing it a dozen times).  I use shrink tubing like this:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Commercial-Electric-4-in-Length-Heat-Shrink-Tubing-Assortment-1-8-in-3-16-in-and-1-4-in-HST-AST/100166440
>>
>>
>>
>> I do the variety pack, because I use a slightly smaller gauge for a first
>> layer or two & then a slightly larger one.  Pretty sure I just do three
>> layers total, but it’s been a minute since I last did it.  (I had much more
>> limited success with other kinds of tubing that didn’t grip as tightly.)
>>
>>
>>
>> As for the second problem, I actually have the same issue on a Bell &
>> Howell 3580 that I’m looking at with a mechanical genius friend next week.
>> I can update you if I figure it out, but if there’s someone out there who
>> already knows the answer, I’m all ears!
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Roger
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Frameworks <frameworks-bounces at film-gallery.org> on behalf of
>> Jay Hudson <jkh30003 at gmail.com>
>> *Reply-To: *Experimental Film Discussion List <
>> frameworks at film-gallery.org>
>> *Date: *Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 8:36 PM
>> *To: *Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org>
>> *Subject: *[Frameworks] Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions
>>
>>
>>
>> I have two issues with an Eiki SL-0 that I need help with:
>>
>>
>>
>> First, a common issue.  The rubber around the lens has disintegrated.  I
>> recall the advice was to get 'surgical tubing' and wrap it around the lens
>> in layers until it is thick enough.   What exactly is the tubing that
>> people are referring to?
>>
>>
>>
>> Secondly, the projector makes a horrible rattling noise when it runs
>> forward.  Inside the projector, as a part of the bottom axle of the feed
>> arm, there are two cup-shaped gears.  Below that, there is a piece that
>> looks like an upside down comma.  When I run the projector in reverse, the
>> comma piece moves up and presses the cup shape gears together.  Run
>> forward, the comma piece does not move.  This is what creates the rattling
>> sound.  If I press the cup shaped gears together manually, there is no
>> rattling sound.  Until recently, I hadn't used the projector in years.  It
>> never used to have this problem.  Any ideas with what is going on and how
>> to fix it?
>>
>>
>>
>> If anyone has any ideas, I would appreciate it highly if they could share
>> them.
>> --
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>> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org
>>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Scott Dorsey <kludge at panix.com>
> To: frameworks at film-gallery.org
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2021 21:53:42 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions
> Larry is entirely correct about lubricating the cam gears BUT... if that
> is
> a problem, likely you have a lot of other lubrication issues that are going
> to appear soon.  Get yourself a bottle of turbine oil and a tube of white
> grease and go through the full lubrication procedure in the manual.  Make
> SURE to lube the intermittent properly because it will destroy itself if it
> runs dry.
>
> The slot load mechanism has a lot of things that can get balky if they are
> not kept clean and lubricated, and it can shred your film very badly if it
> starts acting up.  Go through the whole lubrication.
> --scott
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Matt Shaw <mshaw410 at protonmail.com>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2021 13:13:16 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions
> I'm about to have my EIKI SSL-0 back from Dwight at the Boston Connection
> for many of the same issues. I had tinkered with fixing the issues on my
> own, but they persisted, after purchasing the projector from someone who
> had it in a closet for 30 years.
>
> It was nice to invest in the tune-up, even if it meant a delay in
> processing some film/buying more film stock.
>
> http://cutfilm.com
>
>
> mattshaw.me
> 🌲📡🌲
>
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> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:53 PM, Scott Dorsey <kludge at panix.com> wrote:
>
> > Larry is entirely correct about lubricating the cam gears BUT... if that
> is
> > a problem, likely you have a lot of other lubrication issues that are
> going
> > to appear soon. Get yourself a bottle of turbine oil and a tube of white
> > grease and go through the full lubrication procedure in the manual. Make
> > SURE to lube the intermittent properly because it will destroy itself if
> it
> > runs dry.
> >
> > The slot load mechanism has a lot of things that can get balky if they
> are
> > not kept clean and lubricated, and it can shred your film very badly if
> it
> > starts acting up. Go through the whole lubrication.
> > --scott
> >
> >
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jonathan Walley <walleyj at denison.edu>
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> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 08:31:37 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Difference between
> Hello Jimbo,
>
> I thought about Uncle Josh, or country rube, or “provincial.” All sound
> pretty impolite. But the extreme reaction of Uncle Josh is what I hope for
> from my students when they first encounter avant-garde/experimental cinema
> - not so much the leaping into the screen, but certainly a strong emotional
> reaction that leaves them disoriented.
>
> Using the term “hayseed,” I didn’t really have in mind anyone from a
> specific region, as being from an urban environment doesn’t make a student
> any more likely to have seen experimental films before coming to college.
> Lately I’ve heard about the “global south” and the “global north,” a new
> variant on industrialized vs. non-industrialized, elite vs. marginal, etc.,
> which projects the more regionally specific north/south distinction onto
> the world in general. Perhaps we need a term like “the global hayseed.”
>
> JW
>
> On Mar 2, 2021, at 3:31 PM, James Kreul <kreulj at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>> [I know “hayseed” is impolite, but I just mean it as blanket term for
>> innocent eyes, and after all, I do teach in Ohio].
>>
>
> Jonathan,
>
> Perhaps the film-historical reference that would be a bit more polite
> would be "Uncle Josh," referencing "Uncle Josh at the Moving Picture Show."
> Unless, of course, you believe that Uncle Josh is a "hayseed," as suggested
> by the British original, "The Countryman and the Cinematograph."
>
> Jim K.
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