[Frameworks] Films that are mostly about an audience

Thu Nov 4 11:48:48 UTC 2021

Hello Jaime,

The first one that comes to my mind is, naturally, "Play" (2003),
by Christoph Girardet and Matthias Müller.
r.

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> Subject: [Frameworks] Films that are mostly about an audience
> Hi,
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> Quite broad … even what an ‘audience’ is!
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> Jaime
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> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2021 15:36:22 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Traditional Rotoscoping Mirror Problems
> You put an aperture into the lens of the projector or what do you
> mean exactly?
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> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 6:49 AM Christopher Ball <cbifilms at gmail.com>
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>> I built a rotoscope that was used to project the previous film frame onto
>> the current frame. I had all kinds of problems with focus until I put an
>> aperture into the system, then it was very sharp.  Not sure if that would
>> work with your set up.
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>> Christopher
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>>> It should be a front surface mirror.  You can get surplus ones from
>>> Edmund
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> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Traditional Rotoscoping Mirror Problems
> I had a different set up than yours, so not sure if it is applicable.  I
> projected the prior frame of 35mm film through a lens, then to a mirror and
> back to the next frame of film. I could not get it in focus until I added
> an aperture at the focal point of the lens.  Then it came in sharp, though
> there was a loss of light of course.  This probably won't apply to you as
> you are using a computer projector
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> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 4:36 PM Ben Winston <sketchybean at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> You put an aperture into the lens of the projector or what do you
>> mean exactly?
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 6:49 AM Christopher Ball <cbifilms at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> I built a rotoscope that was used to project the previous film frame
>>> onto the current frame. I had all kinds of problems with focus until I put
>>> an aperture into the system, then it was very sharp.  Not sure if that
>>> would work with your set up.
>>>
>>> Christopher
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 8:19 PM Scott Dorsey <kludge at panix.com> wrote:
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>>>> It should be a front surface mirror.  You can get surplus ones from
>>>> Edmund
>>>> Optics for a reasonable price.
>>>> --scott
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> Subject: [Frameworks] Seeking An Animator For Hire
> I'm looking for an animator who can produce work that resembles this Bob
> Dylan record cover
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saved_(Bob_Dylan_album)#/media/File:Bob_Dylan_-_Saved_(re-release).jpg>
> for my current project.
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> I'd appreciate any references and contact information if available.
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