[Frameworks] Frameworks Digest, Vol 44, Issue 3

Michael Sicinski mjsicinski at gmail.com
Thu Nov 4 17:09:25 UTC 2021


Films about an audience:

Do you know Philipp Fleischmann's work? His film THE INVISIBLE CINEMA 2
(2017) is about the famous seating arrangement that Kubleka designed for
Anthology Film Archives.

Several Warhol films might qualify, including the SCREEN TESTS, VINYL, and
BEAUTY #2.
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>    1. Re: Films that are mostly about an audience
>       (Michael Streicher Metzger)
>    2. Re: Films that are mostly about an audience (Rob Gawthrop)
>    3. Re: Films that are mostly about an audience (jimmyschaus1)
>    4. Seeking An Animator (In Style of Attachment) (Ken Paul Rosenthal)
>    5. Re: Films that are mostly about an audience (mary billyou)
>    6. Re: Films that are mostly about an audience (Els van Riel)
>    7. Re: Films that are mostly about an audience (Jess Hock)
>    8. Re: Films that are mostly about an audience (robert harris)
>    9. Re: Films that are mostly about an audience (FrameWorks Admin)
>   10. Re: Call for ritual & myth films (Nicole)
>   11. Re: Call for ritual & myth films (Franco Consales)
>   12. Re: Films that are mostly about an audience (Albert Alcoz)
>   13. Films that are mostly about an audience (Raymond Beluga Studio)
>   14. Films that are mostly about an audience (jaime cleeland)
>   15. yann beauvais ebook (Scott Hammen)
>   16. New microcinema in Santa Fe: NO NAME CINEMA! (Justin Rhody)
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Michael Streicher Metzger <michael.metzger at northwestern.edu>
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> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2021 17:16:50 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Films that are mostly about an audience
>
> Barbara Hammer’s AUDIENCE comes to mind, obviously! Love, love, love this
> film.
>
>
>
> Also, Sharon Lockhart’s TEATRO AMAZONAS.
>
> Tsai Ming-Liang’s GOODBYE, DRAGON INN.
>
> Owen Land’s REMEDIAL READING COMPREHENSION perhaps?
>
> Jodie Mack’s RAD PLAID, I’d argue.
>
>
>
> *From: *Frameworks <frameworks-bounces at film-gallery.org> on behalf of
> jaime cleeland <ethnomite at yahoo.co.uk>
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> *Date: *Tuesday, November 2, 2021 at 12:57 PM
> *To: *Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org>
> *Subject: *[Frameworks] Films that are mostly about an audience
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Quite broad … even what an ‘audience’ is!
>
>
>
> Jaime
>
>
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> From: Rob Gawthrop <rob at robgawthrop.co.uk>
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> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2021 17:34:57 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Films that are mostly about an audience
> *Auditorium* Ian Breakwell (with Ron Geesin) UK, 1993  32 minutes,
> Colour, Sound
>
> Rob.
>
>
> On 3 Nov 2021, at 17:16, Michael Streicher Metzger <
> michael.metzger at northwestern.edu> wrote:
>
> Barbara Hammer’s AUDIENCE comes to mind, obviously! Love, love, love this
> film.
>
> Also, Sharon Lockhart’s TEATRO AMAZONAS.
> Tsai Ming-Liang’s GOODBYE, DRAGON INN.
> Owen Land’s REMEDIAL READING COMPREHENSION perhaps?
> Jodie Mack’s RAD PLAID, I’d argue.
>
> *From: *Frameworks <frameworks-bounces at film-gallery.org> on behalf of
> jaime cleeland <ethnomite at yahoo.co.uk>
> *Reply-To: *Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org
> >
> *Date: *Tuesday, November 2, 2021 at 12:57 PM
> *To: *Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org>
> *Subject: *[Frameworks] Films that are mostly about an audience
>
> Hi,
>
> Quite broad … even what an ‘audience’ is!
>
> Jaime
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2021 12:39:21 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Films that are mostly about an audience
> Abbas Kiarostami's *Shirin <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whHb4GUegDY>*
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 12:36 PM Rob Gawthrop <rob at robgawthrop.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> *Auditorium* Ian Breakwell (with Ron Geesin) UK, 1993  32 minutes,
>> Colour, Sound
>>
>> Rob.
>>
>>
>> On 3 Nov 2021, at 17:16, Michael Streicher Metzger <
>> michael.metzger at northwestern.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Barbara Hammer’s AUDIENCE comes to mind, obviously! Love, love, love this
>> film.
>>
>> Also, Sharon Lockhart’s TEATRO AMAZONAS.
>> Tsai Ming-Liang’s GOODBYE, DRAGON INN.
>> Owen Land’s REMEDIAL READING COMPREHENSION perhaps?
>> Jodie Mack’s RAD PLAID, I’d argue.
>>
>> *From: *Frameworks <frameworks-bounces at film-gallery.org> on behalf of
>> jaime cleeland <ethnomite at yahoo.co.uk>
>> *Reply-To: *Experimental Film Discussion List <
>> frameworks at film-gallery.org>
>> *Date: *Tuesday, November 2, 2021 at 12:57 PM
>> *To: *Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org>
>> *Subject: *[Frameworks] Films that are mostly about an audience
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Quite broad … even what an ‘audience’ is!
>>
>> Jaime
>>
>>
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> Subject: [Frameworks] Seeking An Animator (In Style of Attachment)
> I'm looking for an animator who can produce work that resembles the
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> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2021 14:07:40 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Films that are mostly about an audience
> Sally Potter’s Goldiggers
>
> On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 1:40 PM jimmyschaus1 <jimmyschaus at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Abbas Kiarostami's *Shirin <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whHb4GUegDY>*
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 12:36 PM Rob Gawthrop <rob at robgawthrop.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> *Auditorium* Ian Breakwell (with Ron Geesin) UK, 1993  32 minutes,
>>> Colour, Sound
>>>
>>> Rob.
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 3 Nov 2021, at 17:16, Michael Streicher Metzger <
>>> michael.metzger at northwestern.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> Barbara Hammer’s AUDIENCE comes to mind, obviously! Love, love, love
>>> this film.
>>>
>>> Also, Sharon Lockhart’s TEATRO AMAZONAS.
>>> Tsai Ming-Liang’s GOODBYE, DRAGON INN.
>>> Owen Land’s REMEDIAL READING COMPREHENSION perhaps?
>>> Jodie Mack’s RAD PLAID, I’d argue.
>>>
>>> *From: *Frameworks <frameworks-bounces at film-gallery.org> on behalf of
>>> jaime cleeland <ethnomite at yahoo.co.uk>
>>> *Reply-To: *Experimental Film Discussion List <
>>> frameworks at film-gallery.org>
>>> *Date: *Tuesday, November 2, 2021 at 12:57 PM
>>> *To: *Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org>
>>> *Subject: *[Frameworks] Films that are mostly about an audience
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Quite broad … even what an ‘audience’ is!
>>>
>>> Jaime
>>>
>>>
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> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2021 19:14:17 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Films that are mostly about an audience
> '10 minutes older' (Frank Herz 1978)
> x
> els
>
>
>
> On 3 Nov 2021, at 18:34, Rob Gawthrop <rob at robgawthrop.co.uk> wrote:
>
> *Auditorium* Ian Breakwell (with Ron Geesin) UK, 1993  32 minutes,
> Colour, Sound
>
> Rob.
>
>
> On 3 Nov 2021, at 17:16, Michael Streicher Metzger <
> michael.metzger at northwestern.edu> wrote:
>
> Barbara Hammer’s AUDIENCE comes to mind, obviously! Love, love, love this
> film.
>
> Also, Sharon Lockhart’s TEATRO AMAZONAS.
> Tsai Ming-Liang’s GOODBYE, DRAGON INN.
> Owen Land’s REMEDIAL READING COMPREHENSION perhaps?
> Jodie Mack’s RAD PLAID, I’d argue.
>
> *From: *Frameworks <frameworks-bounces at film-gallery.org> on behalf of
> jaime cleeland <ethnomite at yahoo.co.uk>
> *Reply-To: *Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org
> >
> *Date: *Tuesday, November 2, 2021 at 12:57 PM
> *To: *Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org>
> *Subject: *[Frameworks] Films that are mostly about an audience
>
> Hi,
>
> Quite broad … even what an ‘audience’ is!
>
> Jaime
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
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> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2021 14:30:57 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Films that are mostly about an audience
> You could argue Nashville is about an audience.
>
> On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 2:09 PM mary billyou <mbillyou at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sally Potter’s Goldiggers
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 1:40 PM jimmyschaus1 <jimmyschaus at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Abbas Kiarostami's *Shirin
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whHb4GUegDY>*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 12:36 PM Rob Gawthrop <rob at robgawthrop.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> *Auditorium* Ian Breakwell (with Ron Geesin) UK, 1993  32 minutes,
>>>> Colour, Sound
>>>>
>>>> Rob.
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3 Nov 2021, at 17:16, Michael Streicher Metzger <
>>>> michael.metzger at northwestern.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Barbara Hammer’s AUDIENCE comes to mind, obviously! Love, love, love
>>>> this film.
>>>>
>>>> Also, Sharon Lockhart’s TEATRO AMAZONAS.
>>>> Tsai Ming-Liang’s GOODBYE, DRAGON INN.
>>>> Owen Land’s REMEDIAL READING COMPREHENSION perhaps?
>>>> Jodie Mack’s RAD PLAID, I’d argue.
>>>>
>>>> *From: *Frameworks <frameworks-bounces at film-gallery.org> on behalf of
>>>> jaime cleeland <ethnomite at yahoo.co.uk>
>>>> *Reply-To: *Experimental Film Discussion List <
>>>> frameworks at film-gallery.org>
>>>> *Date: *Tuesday, November 2, 2021 at 12:57 PM
>>>> *To: *Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org>
>>>> *Subject: *[Frameworks] Films that are mostly about an audience
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Quite broad … even what an ‘audience’ is!
>>>>
>>>> Jaime
>>>>
>>>>
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> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2021 15:36:05 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Films that are mostly about an audience
> SIDE SEAT PAINTING SLIDE SOUND FILM
> by Michael Snow
>
>
>
> On Nov 3, 2021, at 2:30 PM, Jess Hock <jesshock1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You could argue Nashville is about an audience.
>
> On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 2:09 PM mary billyou <mbillyou at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sally Potter’s Goldiggers
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 1:40 PM jimmyschaus1 <jimmyschaus at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Abbas Kiarostami's *Shirin
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whHb4GUegDY>*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 12:36 PM Rob Gawthrop <rob at robgawthrop.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> *Auditorium* Ian Breakwell (with Ron Geesin) UK, 1993  32 minutes,
>>>> Colour, Sound
>>>>
>>>> Rob.
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3 Nov 2021, at 17:16, Michael Streicher Metzger <
>>>> michael.metzger at northwestern.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Barbara Hammer’s AUDIENCE comes to mind, obviously! Love, love, love
>>>> this film.
>>>>
>>>> Also, Sharon Lockhart’s TEATRO AMAZONAS.
>>>> Tsai Ming-Liang’s GOODBYE, DRAGON INN.
>>>> Owen Land’s REMEDIAL READING COMPREHENSION perhaps?
>>>> Jodie Mack’s RAD PLAID, I’d argue.
>>>>
>>>> *From: *Frameworks <frameworks-bounces at film-gallery.org> on behalf of
>>>> jaime cleeland <ethnomite at yahoo.co.uk>
>>>> *Reply-To: *Experimental Film Discussion List <
>>>> frameworks at film-gallery.org>
>>>> *Date: *Tuesday, November 2, 2021 at 12:57 PM
>>>> *To: *Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org>
>>>> *Subject: *[Frameworks] Films that are mostly about an audience
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Quite broad … even what an ‘audience’ is!
>>>>
>>>> Jaime
>>>>
>>>>
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> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2021 11:03:01 +0900
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Films that are mostly about an audience
> David Rimmer, “Watching for the Queen"
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> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2021 15:51:06 +0600
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Call for ritual & myth films
> Hi Meredith!
>
> This absolutely sounds like the sort of film I am looking for, thank you
> so much for sharing it with me. Are you in contact with the filmmaker? Is
> it possible to screen it online?
>
> Nicole Elaine Baker Peterson (she/her/they)
> Founder & Head Programmer, Media Monsters
> nicole at magiklantern.com
> *twitch.tv/media_monsters <http://twitch.tv/media_monsters> | **magiklantern.com
> <http://www.magiklantern.com/>*
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 9:00 PM Meredith Finkelstein Chang <
> mnfinkel at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This sounds fantastic! I cannot wait to tune in.
>>
>> Are you looking for docs?
>> I just ran across this at anthology  -
>>
>> http://anthologyfilmarchives.org/film_screenings/calendar?view=list&month=10&year=2021#showing-53863
>>
>> Is this the sort of thing you have in mind?
>>
>> I know some communities that would be very interested in this.
>>
>> Meredith
>> https://www,systempoetics.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 9:43 AM Cat Tassini <cat.tassini at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Wow, that theme sounds so interesting! If I think of anyone who has a
>>> project that could fit the bill, I'll send them your way.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 8:35 AM Nicole <nicole at magiklantern.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Frameworkers,
>>>>
>>>> You may have seen my emails sharing the experimental film streaming
>>>> program I have been organizing, Media Monsters. Thank you so much to those
>>>> of you who have tuned in!
>>>>
>>>> I have been wanting to assemble a program of films that use ritual,
>>>> reimagine myth, focus on personal folklore, and the like for some time. I
>>>> just never seem to get the right program together.
>>>>
>>>> So I am putting out a special call to this listserv, inviting you to
>>>> share films you think might fit the bill with me.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>> Nicole Elaine Baker Peterson (she/her/they)
>>>> Founder & Head Programmer, Media Monsters
>>>> nicole at magiklantern.com
>>>> *twitch.tv/media_monsters <http://twitch.tv/media_monsters> | **magiklantern.com
>>>> <http://www.magiklantern.com/>*
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> From: Franco Consales <franco.consales at gmail.com>
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> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2021 10:35:51 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Call for ritual & myth films
> Very very very interesting Nicole,
> Thanks for this.
> Franco
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 29 Oct 2021, at 17:30, Michael Betancourt <hinterland.movies at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> what about Water Ritual by Barbara McCullough?
>
>
> https://www.cinema.ucla.edu/la-rebellion/films/water-ritual-1-urban-rite-purification
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> Michael Betancourt, Ph.D
> https://michaelbetancourt.com | cell 305.562.9192 | zoom 875 581 4648
> <https://scad.zoom.us/j/8755814648?pwd=QW1UaXhpSmRjZCttN3JOdGVvME5PZz09>
> https://www.amazon.com/Michael-Betancourt/e/B01H3QILT0/
> sent from my phone
>
> On Oct 29, 2021, at 11:02 AM, Meredith Finkelstein Chang <
> mnfinkel at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> This sounds fantastic! I cannot wait to tune in.
>
> Are you looking for docs?
> I just ran across this at anthology  -
>
> http://anthologyfilmarchives.org/film_screenings/calendar?view=list&month=10&year=2021#showing-53863
>
> Is this the sort of thing you have in mind?
>
> I know some communities that would be very interested in this.
>
> Meredith
> https://www,systempoetics.com
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 9:43 AM Cat Tassini <cat.tassini at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Wow, that theme sounds so interesting! If I think of anyone who has a
>> project that could fit the bill, I'll send them your way.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 8:35 AM Nicole <nicole at magiklantern.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Frameworkers,
>>>
>>> You may have seen my emails sharing the experimental film streaming
>>> program I have been organizing, Media Monsters. Thank you so much to those
>>> of you who have tuned in!
>>>
>>> I have been wanting to assemble a program of films that use ritual,
>>> reimagine myth, focus on personal folklore, and the like for some time. I
>>> just never seem to get the right program together.
>>>
>>> So I am putting out a special call to this listserv, inviting you to
>>> share films you think might fit the bill with me.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>> Nicole Elaine Baker Peterson (she/her/they)
>>> Founder & Head Programmer, Media Monsters
>>> nicole at magiklantern.com
>>> *twitch.tv/media_monsters <http://twitch.tv/media_monsters> | **magiklantern.com
>>> <http://www.magiklantern.com/>*
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> From: Albert Alcoz <albertalcoz at gmail.com>
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> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2021 12:19:16 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Films that are mostly about an audience
> "Play" (2003) by Matthias Müller and Christop Girardet
>
> El jue., 4 nov. 2021 3:03, FrameWorks Admin <frameworks at re-voir.com>
> escribió:
>
>> David Rimmer, “Watching for the Queen"
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> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2021 08:48:48 -0300
> Subject: [Frameworks] Films that are mostly about an audience
> Hello Jaime,
>
> The first one that comes to my mind is, naturally, "Play" (2003),
> by Christoph Girardet and Matthias Müller.
> r.
>
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>>    1. Films that are mostly about an audience (jaime cleeland)
>>    2. Re: Traditional Rotoscoping Mirror Problems (Ben Winston)
>>    3. Re: Traditional Rotoscoping Mirror Problems (Christopher Ball)
>>    4. Seeking An Animator For Hire (Ken Paul Rosenthal)
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: jaime cleeland <ethnomite at yahoo.co.uk>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org>
>> Cc:
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>> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2021 17:56:01 +0000 (UTC)
>> Subject: [Frameworks] Films that are mostly about an audience
>> Hi,
>>
>> Quite broad … even what an ‘audience’ is!
>>
>> Jaime
>>
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>> From: Ben Winston <sketchybean at gmail.com>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org>
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>> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2021 15:36:22 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Traditional Rotoscoping Mirror Problems
>> You put an aperture into the lens of the projector or what do you
>> mean exactly?
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 6:49 AM Christopher Ball <cbifilms at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I built a rotoscope that was used to project the previous film frame
>>> onto the current frame. I had all kinds of problems with focus until I put
>>> an aperture into the system, then it was very sharp.  Not sure if that
>>> would work with your set up.
>>>
>>> Christopher
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 8:19 PM Scott Dorsey <kludge at panix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It should be a front surface mirror.  You can get surplus ones from
>>>> Edmund
>>>> Optics for a reasonable price.
>>>> --scott
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>> From: Christopher Ball <cbifilms at gmail.com>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org>
>> Cc:
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>> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2021 17:05:31 -0300
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Traditional Rotoscoping Mirror Problems
>> I had a different set up than yours, so not sure if it is applicable.  I
>> projected the prior frame of 35mm film through a lens, then to a mirror and
>> back to the next frame of film. I could not get it in focus until I added
>> an aperture at the focal point of the lens.  Then it came in sharp, though
>> there was a loss of light of course.  This probably won't apply to you as
>> you are using a computer projector
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 4:36 PM Ben Winston <sketchybean at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You put an aperture into the lens of the projector or what do you
>>> mean exactly?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 6:49 AM Christopher Ball <cbifilms at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I built a rotoscope that was used to project the previous film frame
>>>> onto the current frame. I had all kinds of problems with focus until I put
>>>> an aperture into the system, then it was very sharp.  Not sure if that
>>>> would work with your set up.
>>>>
>>>> Christopher
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 8:19 PM Scott Dorsey <kludge at panix.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It should be a front surface mirror.  You can get surplus ones from
>>>>> Edmund
>>>>> Optics for a reasonable price.
>>>>> --scott
>>>>>
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>> From: Ken Paul Rosenthal <kenpaulrosenthal at hotmail.com>
>> To: "frameworks at film-gallery.org" <frameworks at film-gallery.org>
>> Cc:
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2021 15:13:10 +0000
>> Subject: [Frameworks] Seeking An Animator For Hire
>> I'm looking for an animator who can produce work that resembles this Bob
>> Dylan record cover
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saved_(Bob_Dylan_album)#/media/File:Bob_Dylan_-_Saved_(re-release).jpg>
>> for my current project.
>>
>> I'd appreciate any references and contact information if available.
>>
>> Cheers, Ken
>>
>> www.kenpaulrosenthal.com
>>
>> www.betweenspiritandstonethefilm.com
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: jaime cleeland <ethnomite at yahoo.co.uk>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2021 13:16:14 +0000 (UTC)
> Subject: [Frameworks] Films that are mostly about an audience
> Thank you to everyone for the suggestions.  Quite a list to shift through:
>
> Sharon Lockhart’s TEATRO AMAZONAS.
>
> "Play" (2003), by Christoph Girardet and Matthias Müller.
>
> David Rimmer, “Watching for the Queen"
>
> SIDE SEAT PAINTING SLIDE SOUND FILM by Michael Snow
>
> You could argue Nashville is about an audience.
>
> Sally Potter’s Goldiggers
>
> Tsai Ming-Liang’s GOODBYE, DRAGON INN.
>
> *Auditorium *Ian Breakwell (with Ron Geesin)UK, 1993 32 minutes, Colour,
> Sound
>
> Abbas Kiarostami's *Shirin <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whHb4GUegDY> *
>
> *Shirin, (2008) Abbas Kiarostami, Full movie with English subtitle
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whHb4GUegDY>*
>
>
> *10 minutes older' (Frank Herz 1978)*
>
> Owen Land’s REMEDIAL READING COMPREHENSION perhaps?
>
> Jodie Mack’s RAD PLAID, I’d argue.
>
> Barbara Hammer’s AUDIENCE comes to mind,
>
>
> Best,
>
> Jaime
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Scott Hammen <scott.hammen at gmail.com>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2021 17:12:03 +0100
> Subject: [Frameworks] yann beauvais ebook
>
> Dear Frameworkers,
>
>
> Following up on the subject of Elena Duque's wonderful program next week
> in Seville, we'd like to call your attention to an ebook we have just
> published on the same subject:
>
>
> ON FILMS 1976-1998 by yann beauvais
>
>
> https://www.eyewashbooks.com/yann-beauvais
> <https://paris-experimental.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=9da96499bb6d69cc48bfbb39f&id=c7f53b486b&e=48c5d6515a>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Scott
>
>
>
> Scott Hammen
>
> www.eyewashbooks.com
>
> On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 at 19:33, Elena Duque <elenaduque at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear FrameWorkers
>>
>> I am writing to you this time to let you know about the program we have
>> organized at Seville Film Festival, in Spain. It celebrates Light Cone's 40
>> years (a bit in advance, 2022 is their real birthday) surveying their
>> collection and trying to compose a particular view on experimental film
>> history so far (with a special emphasis on photochemical works). To
>> introduce all this, we will have with us Yann Beauvais, who will also show
>> some of his films, and will teach a seminar.
>>
>> All this will happen from November 9 to 12 in Seville, and you can sign
>> up for the seminar until November 2 (it will be held in English, with
>> Spanish simultaneous translation).
>>
>> Here you have information and line ups for each one of the programs:
>>
>> Seminar
>> <http://festivalcinesevilla.eu/en/40-years-light-cone-activating-cinema>
>>
>> Program 1 - Landscape / Ecology
>> <http://festivalcinesevilla.eu/en/node/4120>
>>
>> Program 2 - Gender / Identity
>> <http://festivalcinesevilla.eu/en/node/4121>
>>
>> Program 3 - Material Cinema <http://festivalcinesevilla.eu/en/node/4122>
>>
>> Program 4 - The Light Cone Years. Yann Beauvais Films
>> <http://festivalcinesevilla.eu/en/node/4123>
>>
>> I hope we can meet there!
>> Best wishes,
>>
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>> Telf: (+34) 605431072
>> http://cargocollective.com/elenaduque <elenaduque at gmail.com>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Justin Rhody <justincliffordrhody at gmail.com>
> To: frameworks at film-gallery.org
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2021 10:56:45 -0600
> Subject: [Frameworks] New microcinema in Santa Fe: NO NAME CINEMA!
>
> Dropping a line to share the good news that Ben Kujawski and myself are
> starting a microcinema space in Santa Fe, New Mexico: NO NAME CINEMA
> <https://www.instagram.com/noname.cinema/>!
>
> We're currently building out the space, painting, and working to get it in
> ideal shape. We're fortunate to have a designated projection booth already
> in place - and within a month or two everything should be (near)-perfect!
> We'll be seating up to 30 or so people, providing 8mm, Super-8mm, 16mm, and
> (1080p or 4K) digital projection. All screenings will be free to attend or
> sliding scale donation based - and there will always be FREE POPCORN! We're
> looking forward to hosting guest filmmakers & programmers, so I wanted to
> spread the word in hopes that we reach a wider radar.
>
> Ben and I are financing all of this out of our own pockets with no support
> from grants, institutions or trust funds. There's not much going on here in
> Northern New Mexico that supports experimental artist's films and
> non-industry concerns, and it's our dream so we're doing it. (Although
> definite shout-out of admiration to Basement Films & The Guild in ABQ!) We
> set up a GoFundMe fundraiser <https://gofund.me/c7f0a704> to help offset
> the expensive start-up costs. So if you (or anyone!) are able to help out
> financially it would be greatly appreciated! ---->
> https://gofund.me/c7f0a704
>
> Thanks for taking the time to read all of this!
> Best, Justin Rhody
>
>
> P.S. - While we're still in partial-construction mode, we'll be hosting a
> screening on Sat Nov 20th of *Pink Narcissus* alongside the
> world-premiere of a *Super 8 film by local artist JC Gonzo*. Then, on Sat
> Dec 11th we'll be presenting the NM-premiere of Kujawski's *Do
> <https://vimeo.com/485214113> You Think Jesus Liked Hard Boiled Eggs?
> <https://vimeo.com/485214113>* alongside his Super 8 short titled *Misery
> Machine* which he'll be performing live musical accompaniment for.
>
>
>
>
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