[Frameworks] Frameworks Digest, Vol 65, Issue 2

Wed Apr 6 14:05:41 CDT 2022

I want to know from Eric in this post how he prepares his contact printed strips for developing. Does he edit them together before sending film to be processed. Will processors take undeveloped rolls of film that has been edited. I don’t know if the glue or tape will withstand the process.

Fritz

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>   1. Re: Film and etching (Jonathan Walley)
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> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 15:25:41 -0400
> From: Jonathan Walley <walleyj at denison.edu>
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> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Film and etching
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> Thank you to everyone who chimed in on this one, on and off list. My student and I are trying out some things later this week, and if the results are worth hearing about, I?ll share. We?re trying acid resist, which might just vaporize the entire filmstrip, but we?ll see.
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> Thanks for sharing your wisdom, everyone.
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> JW
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>> On Apr 2, 2022, at 12:05 PM, Eric Theise <erictheise at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Hi Jonathan,
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>> One approach to etching and film, which I may be the sole practitioner of, is to print etchings onto very fine Japanese papers and then to contact print the etchings, as a negative, to print stock. I did this using soft ground etchings, a long sheet of glass mounted over a fluorescent light tube, and strips of mat board used to hold the stock, paper, and gels in place during a flashed exposure. There's a more detailed description on the Hojas de Ma?z <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ferictheise.com%2Ffilms%2Fhojas-de-maiz%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C41cd08bd668c4a2b31c708da17eef0e4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637848612306503826%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=Uw6HCWFcJRmNJH8FqBD8vd1C1PvbRSY%2B5lOm7efbNvA%3D&reserved=0> page on my website.
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>> Not exactly what you're looking for as the etching is separate from the filming but it does preserve and take advantage of the textures inherent in intaglio printmaking ? qualities of line, shading given by aquatint ? plus the fibers of the paper itself.
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>> Eric
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>> On Sat, Apr 2, 2022 at 4:51 PM Jonathan Walley <walleyj at denison.edu <mailto:walleyj at denison.edu>> wrote:
>> Hello Frameworks community,
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>> I?m hoping to tap your knowledge on filmmaking matters. I?m working with a student on an independent research project that is primarily ?academic? (i.e. reading and writing scholarly stuff). However, it has taken a turn into filmmaking, as this student wants to work directly with film in the interest of producing better ideas and writing on the subject, something I heartily endorse. She is especially interested in etching, and is in an etching class in which they?re working with all manner of chemicals and doo-dads (a press, for instance). 
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>> I wonder if anyone here has experience with this sort of thing - i.e. subjecting celluloid to the processes and machinery of etching. Of course we are exploring scratching on film, but we are both more interested in going further with a film/etching analogy. Anything at all would be helpful, because while I am familiar enough (for the purposes of this study) with cameras, processing, etc. (the student is using my own Bolex), I am at sea when it comes to this. 
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>> Ideas, references (films or texts), warnings, etc. all welcomed.
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>> Thanks in advance!
>> JW
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