[Frameworks] Celluloid Now Call for Entries

[Scott Hammen]

It seems like "analog" has come to mean simply NOT digital and, as Fred
says, usage has now made this meaning correct.


In a way it recalls the use of the expression "silent movies" for pre-1929
films - a term which was also technically wrong but universally understood
to mean films that did NOT feature recorded speech.


Scott

On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 at 19:25, Luke Aspell <luke.aspell at gmail.com> wrote:

> "Photochemical film" and filmmaking seems to be the most precise way of
> saying what's meant here.
>
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 6:07 PM Fred Camper <f at fredcamper.com> wrote:
>
>> Mark, and CFS, are right about something here. "Analog film" may be
>> redundant, but it may also be the best solution to a problem, and as it
>> becomes used more often it becomes, linguistically speaking, correct.
>>
>> Years ago, as "disrespected" began to be used commonly as a verb, it was
>> objected that it was not a word. But it turns out to have been the best
>> way of saying something, so now it is a word. If "analog film" is the
>> best solution, fine, let's all use it. I don't have a strong opinion on
>> how to solve this.
>>
>> Fred Camper
>> Chicago
>>
>> On 6/11/2022 12:49 PM, mrktosc wrote:
>> > Yeah, Pip I think you’re definitely taking this too literally,
>> particularly for an event which is clearly meant to positively celebrate
>> the love for a medium (and congrats CFS for the effort!).
>> >
>> > And if we want to be strict, “celluloid” is also not accurate, and
>> pertains only to the nitrate era - but we still use it casually and gladly
>> in referring to film.  So, like “celluloid”, the word “film” has for a
>> while now come to be fairly medium-agnostic, and it has made sense in
>> recent years to add the adjective “analog” to clarify, especially for
>> younger enthusiasts for whom the material was never an everyday presence.
>> In their contemporary usage in this kind of context, at least in my view,
>> both “analog” and “film” have implications that extend quite a bit beyond
>> their historical and now more conservative uses.
>> >
>> > And film as a process is analog - film hasn’t just rigidly meant the
>> physical material in like 100 years… As a term it means much more than the
>> flexible plastic material called film, and it’s this inclusive and complex
>> sense of culture/medium/engagement that this festival is clearly meant to
>> highlight.
>> >
>> > Mark
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Jun 11, 2022, at 6:25 PM, Fred Camper <f at fredcamper.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I agree that "analog" is redundant, and that electronically recorded
>> video can be analog, but unfortunately just using "film" is now
>> problematic, since an overwhelming shift in usage has it applying to
>> digital video. Shooting digital video is now called "filming," and a video
>> can be called a "film" We may not like this, but usage has made it correct.
>> >>
>> >> My solution is to write "celluloid." One might write, "films printed
>> on celluoloid," or, to be more restrictive, "films shot and printed on
>> celluloid." It would be interesting to know if the festival will accept
>> works shot on video but printed on celluloid, and designed that way, for
>> the look of, for example, Pixelvision on celluloid. Such things exist.
>> >>
>> >> I am all ears as to a better terminology solution.
>> >>
>> >> Fred Camper
>> >> Chicago
>> >>
>> >>> On 6/11/2022 12:01 PM, FrameWorks Admin wrote:
>> >>> Just a comment here: film is not analog. Film is a material. Whereas
>> an audio or a video signal can be either analog or digital, it is a
>> misnomer to say “analog film” or “digital film” - please just say film.
>> >>> - Pip Chodorov
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>> On Jun 11, 2022, at 1:33 PM, Julian Antos <
>> julian at chicagofilmsociety.org> wrote:
>> >>>> We're very pleased to announce our call for entries for CELLULOID
>> NOW, a four day showcase of recent work and archival rediscoveries
>> presented on analog film. More info below!
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