[Frameworks] neg cutting

[Tara Nelson]

Thanks for speaking up when you felt like you were being talked down to,
Anna. I had the same feeling about the responses to your initial message
and I am sorry I didn't speak up sooner.
You clearly know what you are doing and don't deserve any form of
condescension. You can cut my negatives with tape splices any day.

Tara Merenda Nelson
Rochester NY

On Sun, Apr 23, 2023 at 12:43 PM Anna Kipervaser <anna.kipervaser at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Els, I understand you're looking to own a s8 gate for the JK, but would it
> be helpful to borrow one for a while or is that not of interest? I ask
> because I might be able to help facilitate a lending (from the US). And I'm
> sorry I don't know what the lens extension situation is or what it's used
> for. Would love to learn! I've got a K103 and have bellows on the JK. I
> feel like I've seen JKs with both the extension in your pic and bellows,
> and have assumptions on why, but would love to learn specifics. Please tell.
>
> Also, is Mariette Michaud cutting negatives for most folks in Belgium, or
> are most doing their own neg cutting? I'm so interested in this question
> especially when there's a magician like Mariette Michaud around.
>
>
> Jeff, I'm sorry.... but again, not asking for any advice or explanations
> re neg cutting, tape splicing vs cement, etc... Perhaps it's unintentional,
> but your messages read like you're talking down to people, to me and others
> [Scott's initial message read that way too]. Not cool. You already said you
> haven't done this in ages and that you've gone digital so maybe you don't
> know what's actually happening these days regarding this topic.
>
> And I dunno why you're putting *real* in quotes. As if LABO BxL or Mono
> No Aware or nanolab aren't real [to name a few from diff continents]!? Are
> they figments of our imagination?! As a point of fact: both artist run and
> commercial labs are putting tape splices thru their ultrasonic cleaning
> machines and their contact printers - both wet and dry gate.
>
>
> ****NOTICE*: no one is asking if tape splicing is possible or ok to use
> for neg cutting. No one. Not a single person in the whole wide world***
>
>
> Thank you for reading my PSA, now we return to our regularly scheduled
> programming. Peace and fucking love y'all, peace and love.
>
> *Disclaimer: I am not pissed. I know where I posted my initial inquiry. I
> just insist on clarity of communication and on speaking up if something
> ain't feeling right.*
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 23, 2023 at 4:31 AM Els van Riel <mail at elsvanriel.be> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Here in Belgium we had Huguette Van Volsem who worked as a fulltime
>> neg-cutter for our Belgian film-en TV industry. A few years ago Mariette
>> Michaud bought part of her equipement and uses it from time to time. Her
>> splices ar invisible.
>>
>> By the way, reading about the JK optical printer, in artist run LABO BxL
>> we are still on the look out for its super-8 gate and lens-extension for
>> our JK107. See picture.
>> If anyone could give me a lead? We have a budget for it.
>>
>> Thank you very much!
>>
>> Els van Riel
>> Brussels/Belgium
>>
>>
>> On 23 Apr 2023, at 08:57, Jeff Kreines <jeff at kinetta.com> wrote:
>>
>> Tape splices are fine for a JK.  You can even cut the neg with handles
>> and skip the splices when printing.
>>
>> However, if you are going to a “real” lab, they won’t like tape splices
>> because they can’t use an ultrasonic cleaner.  (They can, but the splices
>> eventually come off.)
>>
>> Jeff Kreines
>> Kinetta
>> jeff at kinetta.com
>> kinetta.com
>>
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