[Frameworks] Films with creative/alternative use of subtitles
Sarah Bliss
bliss at sarahblissart.com
Wed Dec 6 15:42:03 CST 2023
Creative use of subtitles/intertitles: Nazli Dincel’s films
http://www.nazlidincel.com/moving
Sarah
http://www.SarahBlissArt.com
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> 1. Films with creative/alternative use of subtitles (jjmartinod)
> 2. Re: Films with creative/alternative use of subtitles
> (Thomas Bartels)
> 3. Re: kodaliths and other title tools (Sarah Bliss)
> 4. Re: Films with creative/alternative use of subtitles
> (Albert Alcoz)
> 5. Re: Films with creative/alternative use of subtitles
> (Robert Schaller)
> 6. "140 different wipes that are available" (Eric Theise)
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> From: jjmartinod <jjmartinod at protonmail.com>
> Subject: [Frameworks] Films with creative/alternative use of subtitles
> Date: December 6, 2023 at 1:01:25 PM EST
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org>
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> Hello everyone,
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> Looking for films(mostly "experimental" documentaries) from the last 10 years that make creative use of subtitles. This can be fonts, positioning, or anything that may come to mind.
>
> deeply appreciated!
>
> jaco
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> From: Thomas Bartels <mail at thomasbartels.eu>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Films with creative/alternative use of subtitles
> Date: December 6, 2023 at 1:49:59 PM EST
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> Hello Jaco,
>
> here is a documentary of mine that might fit in your description. Except it is a bit older:
> https://vimeo.com/298287085 <https://vimeo.com/298287085?share=copy>
> pw: Baikal
> website: https://sagandalja.com/en/
>
> Best,
> Thomas.
>
> Thomas Bartels
> www.thomasbartels.eu <http://www.thomasbartels.eu/>jjmartinod <jjmartinod at protonmail.com> hat am 06.12.2023 19:01 CET geschrieben:
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>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> Looking for films(mostly "experimental" documentaries) from the last 10 years that make creative use of subtitles. This can be fonts, positioning, or anything that may come to mind.
>>
>> deeply appreciated!
>>
>> jaco
>>
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> From: Sarah Bliss <bliss at sarahblissart.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] kodaliths and other title tools
> Date: December 6, 2023 at 2:30:59 PM EST
> To: frameworks at film-gallery.org
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> Scott,
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> Could you describe in more detail the process you’re suggesting re: laser printing, black tape and fluid?
>
> thanks,
>
> Sarah
> http://www.SarahBlissArt.com
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>> Today's Topics:
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>> 1. Diary Film #2 (Dominic Angerame)
>> 2. kodaliths and other title tools (Lyra Hill)
>> 3. Re: kodaliths and other title tools (Scott Dorsey)
>> 4. Re: kodaliths and other title tools (Eric Theise)
>> 5. Tenure-Track Assistant Professor in Digital Media Production
>> (FAU) >>> DEADLINE EXTENDED (Shane Eason)
>> 6. Re: experimental road movies at UnionDocs - Thursday (Dec 7)
>> 8PM (Stephen Anker)
>>
>> From: Dominic Angerame <dominic.angerame at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Frameworks] Diary Film #2
>> Date: December 5, 2023 at 1:30:42 PM EST
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org>
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>> Another short diary film of a typical evening at the No Nothing Cinema 1981 with Bruce Conner playing the organ,
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>> https://vimeo.com/891551096?share=copy
>> No password needed
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>> Thanks, enjoy.
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>> d
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>> From: Lyra Hill <lyra.lou at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Frameworks] kodaliths and other title tools
>> Date: December 5, 2023 at 3:00:43 PM EST
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org>
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>> Hello all,
>>
>> Curious if anyone knows of a place that still prints kodaliths? The last time I ordered was from Valencia Printers in 2018. I checked with them recently and they no longer offer the service.
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>> I'm skeptical that I'll find another printer. I'm preparing to shoot 16mm BW titles on Double-X. My back up plan is to make laser cuts into stiff black paper, and place these over a light table to shoot through instead. This will give me the same 100% opacity as a kodalith, but with more material finickiness trying to trim chads and position the floating centers of fully cut-out letters, etc.
>>
>> My backup-backup plan is to film off a piece of paper, although I would rather not go this route.
>>
>> Does anyone know of another kodalith printer?
>> And, is there another strategy I may be missing here?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> - Lark Lyra Hill
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Scott Dorsey <kludge at panix.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] kodaliths and other title tools
>> Date: December 5, 2023 at 3:38:23 PM EST
>> To: frameworks at film-gallery.org
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>> Print on a laser printer, then apply vast amounts of black tape masking
>> and opaque fluid... it is no fun....
>> --scott
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>> From: Eric Theise <erictheise at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] kodaliths and other title tools
>> Date: December 5, 2023 at 4:21:14 PM EST
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>> Hi Lark Lyra,
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>> If you're in a place with an active letterpress community you might ask where printers get their polymer plates made, then ask the platemaker if they have technology that can create film positives of the size you need. I went this route for titles some ten years ago; I don't know that I would do it again or if the technology's changed.
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>> The tolerances for platemaking seem looser than ours and you'll need to patiently explain what you're going to do. My first batch came back with pinholes and other artifacts and we had to do a second, maybe third run with fresher chemistry and higher dmax targets, and they still weren't perfect. I was working with a local graphic arts guru/mensch and he almost certainly lost money on that job.
>>
>> Eric
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>> On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 12:06 PM Lyra Hill <lyra.lou at gmail.com <mailto:lyra.lou at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Curious if anyone knows of a place that still prints kodaliths? The last time I ordered was from Valencia Printers in 2018. I checked with them recently and they no longer offer the service.
>>>
>>> I'm skeptical that I'll find another printer. I'm preparing to shoot 16mm BW titles on Double-X. My back up plan is to make laser cuts into stiff black paper, and place these over a light table to shoot through instead. This will give me the same 100% opacity as a kodalith, but with more material finickiness trying to trim chads and position the floating centers of fully cut-out letters, etc.
>>>
>>> My backup-backup plan is to film off a piece of paper, although I would rather not go this route.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know of another kodalith printer?
>>> And, is there another strategy I may be missing here?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> - Lark Lyra Hill
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>> From: Shane Eason <shaneeason at yahoo.ca>
>> Subject: [Frameworks] Tenure-Track Assistant Professor in Digital Media Production (FAU) >>> DEADLINE EXTENDED
>> Date: December 5, 2023 at 8:28:59 PM EST
>> To: frameworks at film-gallery.org
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>>
>> FYI…
>>
>> The deadline for applications for the Tenure-Track Assistant Professor in Digital Media Production at Florida Atlantic University has been extended to December 11, 2023.
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>> https://fau.wd1.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/FAU/job/Assistant-Professor_REQ17083
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>> Cheers,
>>
>> SCE
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>>
>> From: Stephen Anker <sanker at calarts.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] experimental road movies at UnionDocs - Thursday (Dec 7) 8PM
>> Date: December 6, 2023 at 4:06:11 AM EST
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>> Dear Kornelia,
>> Have a great time with this!
>> Best wishes, Steve
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>> On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 10:11 AM Kornelia Boczkowska <kornelia.boczkowska at gmail.com <mailto:kornelia.boczkowska at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Dear Frameworkers,
>>>
>>> There’s a special program on experimental road movies at UnionDocs (352 Onderdonk Ave, Queens, NY 11385) this Thursday (Dec 7), showtime 8 pm. If this is of your interest and you happen to be in town, please consider joining us!
>>>
>>> More information: https://uniondocs.org/event/lost-highways-embodied-travel-2023-12-07/
>>> Trailer for the show by UnionDocs: https://player.vimeo.com/video/890366588?dnt=1&app_id=122963
>>>
>>> The program will be followed by a conversation with the filmmakers.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Kornelia
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> Assistant Professor
>>> American Studies Research Unit
>>> Faculty of English | Adam Mickiewicz University in Poznań
>>> https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kornelia_Boczkowska
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> From: Albert Alcoz <albertalcoz at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Films with creative/alternative use of subtitles
> Date: December 6, 2023 at 2:34:56 PM EST
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> Maybe you can check these videos by Peter Rose and John Smith:
>
> Trump Talks Back (Peter Rose, 2020) 1 min 30 sec
> https://www.peterrosepicture.com/video-2001---2023.html
>
> Covid Messages (John Smith, 2020) 22 min.
> https://johnsmithfilms.com/selected-works/covid-messages/
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> On Wed, Dec 6, 2023 at 7:08 PM jjmartinod <jjmartinod at protonmail.com <mailto:jjmartinod at protonmail.com>> wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> Looking for films(mostly "experimental" documentaries) from the last 10 years that make creative use of subtitles. This can be fonts, positioning, or anything that may come to mind.
>>
>> deeply appreciated!
>>
>> jaco
>>
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> From: Robert Schaller <robert at ontosmedia.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Films with creative/alternative use of subtitles
> Date: December 6, 2023 at 3:07:13 PM EST
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> The film I'm working on now might fit, but it's not done yet! What's your timeline?
>
> -Robert Schaller
>
>> On Dec 6, 2023, at 11:01 AM, jjmartinod <jjmartinod at protonmail.com <mailto:jjmartinod at protonmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> Looking for films(mostly "experimental" documentaries) from the last 10 years that make creative use of subtitles. This can be fonts, positioning, or anything that may come to mind.
>>
>> deeply appreciated!
>>
>> jaco
>>
>> Sent with Proton Mail <https://proton.me/> secure email.
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> From: Eric Theise <erictheise at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Frameworks] "140 different wipes that are available"
> Date: December 6, 2023 at 3:20:46 PM EST
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org>
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> This figure appears in my copy of Roberts and Sharples' A Primer for Film-Making (1971)–
>
> <image.png>
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> –and I have questions.
>
> Was there a company in the business of selling matte kits to labs? "140" seems so specific and yet so arbitrary.
>
> Has anyone ever come across a reel demonstrating all or most of these wipes? A few I find perplexing, many I recognize or can imagine, but seeing them in action would be instructive.
>
> Happy to read any discussion this provokes, thanks.
>
> Eric
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