[Frameworks] Color separation experiment

luis ? mabalufilm at gmail.com
Thu Mar 16 05:09:08 CDT 2023


Hi,

Cécile Fontaine films´s *CHARLOTTE* and *JAPON SERIES, *

also some Viktoria Schmid´d films like NYC RGB or the nice installation THE
CLOUDS ARE NOT LIKE EITHER ONE- THEY DO NOT KEEP ONE FORM FOREVER

or *EL OCEANO ANALOGO  <https://luismacias.es/ocean-analog/>*

all my best
Luis

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Luis Macías
http://luismacias.es/





El jue, 16 mar 2023 a las 8:33, Thomas Bartels (<mail at thomasbartels.eu>)
escribió:

> In 1980 Bernd Upnmoor shot DOM in Hamburg, Germany. Three rolls of b/w
> film exposed with colour filters as Scott suggested. A merry-go-round
> illuminated at nighttime. In the begining and end of the film the three
> different shots meet, in the middle part the colours run out of sync.
> Beautiful!
> Best,
> Thomas.
> Thomas Bartels
> www.thomasbartels.eu
>
> Albert Alcoz <albertalcoz at gmail.com> hat am 15.03.2023 23:08 CET
> geschrieben:
>
>
> Hello John,
>
> Some other films that could be interesting for the color separation
> experiment are *Colour Separation* by Chris Welsby
> <https://lightcone.org/en/film-1532-colour-separation> and, as Eric
> Theise suggested, Tomonari Nishikawa's *45 7 Broadway*
> <https://vimeo.com/117525190>.
>
> In 2015 I did an Ektachrome reversal super 8 film playing with different
> colour filters. It was a freestyle procedure though and here are some
> frames of the outcome: *Color Spectrum
> <http://www.albertalcoz.com/2015/05/espectro-cromatico.html>*.
>
> Best,
> Albert
>
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 8:24 PM Jeff Kreines <jeff at kinetta.com> wrote:
>
> If you’re shooting under artificial light consider using cycled R G B LED
> lights instead of filters. Less light loss and less heat to melt the ice.
>
> Jeff Kreines
> Kinetta
> jeff at kinetta.com
> kinetta.com
>
> Sent from iPhone.
>
> On Mar 15, 2023, at 1:11 PM, Eric Theise <erictheise at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
> Since Andre mentioned the Cantrills, I will say that their Waterfall is
> perhaps my favorite color separation film. But more recently, there was Ben
> River's sloth film, Now, At Last! <https://vimeo.com/320467431>, and I
> believe Tomonari Nishikawa has made more than one. I doubt he's on
> Frameworks but I've always found him to be a friendly problem solver so you
> might want to reach out to him:
>
> https://www.tomonarinishikawa.com/contact.html
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 11:59 AM <andre.colinet at telenet.be> wrote:
>
> The films of The Cantrills in a desert of Australia.Time,colour,
> separations.
>
>
> ----- Mail d’origine -----
> De: John Davis <0johndavis0 at gmail.com>
> À: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org>
> Cc: Renée Delores <reneedelores at hotmail.com>
> Envoyé: Wed, 15 Mar 2023 18:05:44 +0100 (CET)
> Objet: [Frameworks] Color separation experiment
>
> Hello Frameworkers,
>
> I am collaborating with, and writing on behalf of a friend who wants to
> make a film using Ektachrome that will attempt to create a motion/color
> separation effect. Here are her words:
>
> "I am seeking advice for shooting a three color separation in 16mm with
> Ektachrome color reversal film.
>
>
> The film will document three fixed-position nearly identical ice blocks
> with embedded plant materials. I plan to shoot on the same film reels
> doing
> three consecutive passes, each pass documenting the three ice blocks as
> they disintegrate. Using an Intervalometer for time-lapse, I am thinking I
> would need to use three different filters/gels to isolate the colors for
> each pass as the ice melts and the trapped matter/water fall out of
> alignment. Any advice/experience with a process like this would be much
> appreciated.
>
>
> Some questions are:
>
>
> 1. What RGB gels/filters would be recommended to filter out corresponding
> colors and produce the positive RGB color separation effect?
>
> 2. As Ektachrome is a reversal film, would I use the complementary filters
> for red (cyan), green (magenta) and blue (yellow)? Or should I be doing
> the
> opposite?
>
>
> With the understanding there will need to be light tests, etc, any
> additional advice on aperture compensation relative to a triple exposure
> (with gels) would be much appreciated."
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> John Davis
>
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