[Frameworks] Videos merging dance and performance
JANIS LIPZIN
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Sat Aug 9 13:20:38 CDT 2025
https://vimeo.com/user5746825
Mary Trunk
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The work of Mary Trunk might be of interest
Janis Crystal Lipzin
jclvision.com
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> 1. Re: Experimental films merging dance & performance with
> documentary (Dinorah de Jesús Rodríguez)
> 2. Re: Experimental films merging dance & performance with
> documentary (Michael Betancourt)
> 3. field-level processing in video (jared ashburn)
> 4. Re: field-level processing in video (mrktosc)
> 5. Re: field-level processing in video (Adam Hyman)
> 6. Re: field-level processing in video (Michael Betancourt)
> 7. Re: Experimental films merging dance & performance with
> documentary (Brandon Walley)
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> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2025 14:04:11 -0400
> From: Dinorah de Jesús Rodríguez <solisland at gmail.com>
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> Please see my film "finding Lost & Found" an experimental documentary about
> the creation of a dance piece with a mixed-ability dance company
> https://vimeo.com/683961546/185ffb32db?ts=0&share=copy
>
> enjoy today...
>
> Dinorah de Jesús Rodríguez
> Filmmaker, Artist, Writer
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> solislandmediaworks.com
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> On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 8:34 AM Arindam Sen <sen.arindam.1986 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> A few oddball favourites from the top of my head:
>>
>> The films of Maria Klonaris and Katerina Thomadaki, like Selva: Un
>> portrait de Parvaneh Navaï (1982) which is marvellous.
>> Eliane Summers’ Windows in the Kitchen (1983)
>> Portrait der Cordua (1969) by HHK Schoenherr
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 at 14:19, Albert Alcoz <albertalcoz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> A Study in Coreography for Camera (Maya Deren,1945)
>>> Pas de Deux (Norman McLaren, 1968)
>>> The firsts films by Yvonne Rainer.
>>> Dance or Exercise on the Perimeter of the Square (Bruce Nauman, 1967)
>>> Come and Dance with me (Ojoboca, 2013)
>>> Etc. Etc.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://albertalcoz.com/ <http://www.albertalcoz.com/>
>>>
>>> El dj., 31 de jul. 2025, 10:03, Esperanza Collado <
>>> esperanzacollado1 at gmail.com> va escriure:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> *Pas de ciel *(1987), by Teo Hernández fits well your approach I guess.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> El jue, 31 jul 2025 a las 0:07, <mail at elsvanriel.be> escribió:
>>>>
>>>>> Annik Leroy et Julie Morel: LA FORCE DIAGONALE
>>>>>
>>>>> https://augusteorts.be/en/catalogue/162/la-force-diagonale
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Greatings
>>>>>
>>>>> Els (Belgium)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2025-07-30 19:38, m b wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Doris Chase
>>>>> Yvonne Rainer
>>>>>
>>>>> www.mbillyou.com
>>>>> @mbillyou_film <https://www.instagram.com/mbillyou_film/>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 1:16 PM aktivfilm <aktivfilm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear frameworkers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you recommend any experimental or avant-garde films that blend
>>>>> dance/ performance and documentary elements in innovative ways?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance for your feedback.
>>>>> Ruben
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ruben guzman
>>>>> raymond beluga studio
>>>>> www.raymondbelugastudio.com
>>>>> https://raymondbelugastudio.com/about-us/ruben-guzman/
>>>>> https://vimeo.com/user10836118
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> From: Michael Betancourt <hinterland.movies at gmail.com>
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> From: jared ashburn <ashburn.jared at gmail.com>
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> Does anyone know if Ken Jacobs, Ernie Gehr, or any other artists besides
> Woody and Steina Vasulka have worked at the level of the video field? I’m
> particularly interested in practices that manipulate fields (1/60 second in
> NTSC), whether for timing-based image alteration or for preserving
> field-specific flicker phenomena. Thanks!
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> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2025 21:29:46 -0700
> From: mrktosc <mrktosc at gmail.com>
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> I have a recollection that Ernie made a video piece called Crystal Palace that specifically depended upon interlace and field stuff and as a result he had difficulty translating it later to progressive digital video formats, although maybe that was done successfully since I last heard about it. I’m pretty sure he had two pieces that worked with this, but I can’t remember the name of the other one.
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> Mark
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>> On Aug 8, 2025, at 9:16 PM, jared ashburn <ashburn.jared at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Does anyone know if Ken Jacobs, Ernie Gehr, or any other artists besides Woody and Steina Vasulka have worked at the level of the video field? I’m particularly interested in practices that manipulate fields (1/60 second in NTSC), whether for timing-based image alteration or for preserving field-specific flicker phenomena. Thanks!
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> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2025 21:34:31 -0700
> From: Adam Hyman <adam at lafilmforum.org>
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> Hi,
> We tried to screen it (Ernie's piece) without success at Los Angeles Filmforum once because the digital projector couldn't do what he needed it to do for the piece to work.
>
> Best regards,
> adam
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> On 8/8/25, 9:31 PM, "Frameworks on behalf of mrktosc" <frameworks-bounces at film-gallery.org <mailto:frameworks-bounces at film-gallery.org> on behalf of mrktosc at gmail.com <mailto:mrktosc at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>
> I have a recollection that Ernie made a video piece called Crystal Palace that specifically depended upon interlace and field stuff and as a result he had difficulty translating it later to progressive digital video formats, although maybe that was done successfully since I last heard about it. I’m pretty sure he had two pieces that worked with this, but I can’t remember the name of the other one.
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>> On Aug 8, 2025, at 9:16 PM, jared ashburn <ashburn.jared at gmail.com <mailto:ashburn.jared at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Does anyone know if Ken Jacobs, Ernie Gehr, or any other artists besides Woody and Steina Vasulka have worked at the level of the video field? I’m particularly interested in practices that manipulate fields (1/60 second in NTSC), whether for timing-based image alteration or for preserving field-specific flicker phenomena. Thanks!
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> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2025 02:23:05 -0400
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> From: Brandon Walley <brand500 at gmail.com>
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> For contemporary examples, there was an entire program in last year's Ann
> Arbor Film Festival devoted to this.
> https://aafilmfest.filmchief.com/shop/tickets?v=58
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> Brandon Walley <https://brand500.wixsite.com/website>
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> On Fri, Aug 8, 2025 at 3:33 PM Michael Betancourt <
> hinterland.movies at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This might be a bit too far from what you're looking for:
>> https://vimeo.com/986463987
>> *La Fée Électricité* (The Electric Fairy) is an animation of generative
>> glitches made by AI (LoRA) models interacting to cancel each other’s work.
>> Adapted from a brief sequence of a serpentine dance filmed in 1896, this
>> aimaglitch movie is an homage to dancer and choreographer Loïe Fuller. It
>> is a "dance film" where the literal dance becomes a metaphor for generative
>> AI's technological transformation of the source imagery.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael Betancourt, Ph.D
>> https://linktr.ee/cinegraphic | cell 305.562.9192| zoom 875 581 4648
>> <https://scad.zoom.us/j/8755814648?pwd=QW1UaXhpSmRjZCttN3JOdGVvME5PZz09>
>>
>> sent from my phone
>>
>> On Aug 8, 2025, at 2:06 PM, Dinorah de Jesús Rodríguez <
>> solisland at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Please see my film "finding Lost & Found" an experimental documentary
>> about the creation of a dance piece with a mixed-ability dance company
>> https://vimeo.com/683961546/185ffb32db?ts=0&share=copy
>>
>> enjoy today...
>>
>> Dinorah de Jesús Rodríguez
>> Filmmaker, Artist, Writer
>>
>> solislandmediaworks.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 8:34 AM Arindam Sen <sen.arindam.1986 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> A few oddball favourites from the top of my head:
>>>
>>> The films of Maria Klonaris and Katerina Thomadaki, like Selva: Un
>>> portrait de Parvaneh Navaï (1982) which is marvellous.
>>> Eliane Summers’ Windows in the Kitchen (1983)
>>> Portrait der Cordua (1969) by HHK Schoenherr
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 at 14:19, Albert Alcoz <albertalcoz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> A Study in Coreography for Camera (Maya Deren,1945)
>>>> Pas de Deux (Norman McLaren, 1968)
>>>> The firsts films by Yvonne Rainer.
>>>> Dance or Exercise on the Perimeter of the Square (Bruce Nauman, 1967)
>>>> Come and Dance with me (Ojoboca, 2013)
>>>> Etc. Etc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://albertalcoz.com/ <http://www.albertalcoz.com/>
>>>>
>>>> El dj., 31 de jul. 2025, 10:03, Esperanza Collado <
>>>> esperanzacollado1 at gmail.com> va escriure:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> *Pas de ciel *(1987), by Teo Hernández fits well your approach I guess.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> El jue, 31 jul 2025 a las 0:07, <mail at elsvanriel.be> escribió:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Annik Leroy et Julie Morel: LA FORCE DIAGONALE
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://augusteorts.be/en/catalogue/162/la-force-diagonale
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greatings
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Els (Belgium)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2025-07-30 19:38, m b wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doris Chase
>>>>>> Yvonne Rainer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.mbillyou.com
>>>>>> @mbillyou_film <https://www.instagram.com/mbillyou_film/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 1:16 PM aktivfilm <aktivfilm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear frameworkers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you recommend any experimental or avant-garde films that blend
>>>>>> dance/ performance and documentary elements in innovative ways?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance for your feedback.
>>>>>> Ruben
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ruben guzman
>>>>>> raymond beluga studio
>>>>>> www.raymondbelugastudio.com
>>>>>> https://raymondbelugastudio.com/about-us/ruben-guzman/
>>>>>> https://vimeo.com/user10836118
>>>>>> --
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