[Frameworks] UbuWeb...HACKED!

[Shane Eason]

A disclaimer is/was displayed on the site that said "UbuWeb has been hacked!" 

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 13, 2010, at 11:06 PM, "Gene Youngblood" <atopia at comcast.net> wrote:

Can anyone point us to an article or news account of this? In what way was Ubu hacked such that it has had to completely shut down? 
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Allowing people to see things - people who live in, say, the developing world, not in New York or London or wherever - letting them know there's more to cinema than the latest blockbuster - can only be of value. Not everything is available on DVD. Many countries practice censorship. Ubuweb offers /    offered a celebration of the possibilities in creative practice that otherwise people may never get to experience. 

BTW there's also evidence that people who LIKE stuff they find online subsequently purchase it.

Jack




On 14/10/2010, at 12:45 PM, Matt Helme wrote:

To not get permission is rude and illegal.
Matt

From: "jack at jacktext.net" <jack at jacktext.net>
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Sent: Wed, October 13, 2010 8:59:12 PM
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http://jacksargeant.blogspot.com/2010/10/vale-ubu.html



On 14/10/2010, at 11:48 AM, Beth Capper wrote:

And, if you ever read Cory Doctorow, you'll realize that yes, people do buy the books even when it's out there for free (Doctorow's books are all available online for download, yet two of them have been on bestseller's lists). Could it perhaps be a misconception that forcing scarcity (esp. in the case of digital works) is a good business model? 


On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Beverly O'Neill <bevon1 at earthlink.net> wrote:
Dear Jack,  Your point is well taken.  How do viewers get access to this kind of work?  However, UBU simply pirated artists films without asking permission, or paying a small fee to upload films onto their site.  Two years ago this listserv spent considerable time arguing about the validity of Ken Goldsmith's (UBU's creator) tactics.  If you backtrack in the Frameworks archive you can follow that thread.  Everything that was said then still applies today.  Many of the responses supported the          case you are making now.  Obviously I was opposed.

Don't close the library, don't prohibit access but do buy the books.

Beverly O'


"good news"?

not for anybody who wants to see one of these movies, read an essay or listen to some sound who doesn't live in a major urban centre or have access to a museum. Maybe the copyright is an issue, but they made work available that often isn't readily accessible, and that counts for something.

Bottom line is that regardless of anything, it's a resource and a library, and I've never been one for prohibiting access and closing libraries...

Jack


On 14/10/2010, at 7:29 AM, Beverly O'Neill wrote:

Ah, this is such good news.  I will              refrain from posting a screed about that site.  A Google search offers a number of condolences to Ken Goldsmith, UBU's founder.  One writer wondered if the anniversary of John Lennon's death and the simultaneous hacking of UBU had anything in common. 
So thrilled!
Beverly O'Neill 
 
On Oct 11, 2010, at 8:01 PM, Shane Christian Eason wrote:

So...yeah...um...apparently UBU is offline! Hacked! 

Considering what has been discussed in the past regarding this website, 
does anyone want to comment on this? Additional information? Very odd, 
considering I was on the site this past weekend. Although, my iPhone App 
for WFMU UbuWeb Radio continues to work. 

Curious,

Shane
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