[Frameworks] Views From the Avant-Garde 2010

gregg biermann mubbazoo at optonline.net
Fri Oct 15 07:46:48 CDT 2010


  Hi Jeanne,
Of course that is true of me as well ... but doesn't that make my 
suggestion reasonable?
G

On 10/14/2010 3:42 PM, jeanne LIOTTA wrote:
> I've never been in a show in my life that didn't represent the views 
> of the curators.
> Jeanne 'just sayin' Liotta
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 12:01 PM, gregg biermann 
> <mubbazoo at optonline.net <mailto:mubbazoo at optonline.net>> wrote:
>
>     Ben  -- Frameworkers,
>
>     I cannot give you a review of the screenings but only my general
>     feelings about the many years of screenings that I had attended in
>     the past. My beef with the programming is that the Views
>     represents only the views of Mark McElhatten and Gavin Smith. The
>     screenings have a gravitational pull in this community perhaps in
>     large part to their institutional affiliation with Lincoln Center.
>     Whatever the reason, the programmers do not seem to take seriously
>     what I see as a special responsibility to present the breadth and
>     depth of what is really being produced out there in this mode. If
>     these screenings have become the central venue for avant-garde
>     cinema, the programming cannot be arbitrary. It needs to get
>     beyond the peculiar tastes of the programmers (even keeping in
>     mind Mark's long time commitment to programming in the avant-garde
>     idiom).  As an artist that was repeatedly ignored by the
>     programmers and eventually stopped attending the screenings
>     altogether, I felt compelled to contact Smith directly about a
>     year ago. Of course I complained about being undervalued but more
>     importantly to this group, I told him that I thought that these
>     screenings had become uptight and insular -- an insider game. I
>     suggested to Gavin that the best way to avoid that perception
>     among artists that are productive and committed to avant-garde
>     cinema and repeatedly not included in the screenings would be to
>     have a different guest programmer join them each year. I had hoped
>     that he would take my criticism as constructive but he rejected
>     the idea out of hand and certainly did not allow that I in any way
>     had a valid point. As far as expanding the list of programmers and
>     getting another view as to what is valuable in a given year -- I
>     doubt that this will happen unless this community demands it.
>
>     Best regards,
>     Gregg
>
>
>     On 10/13/2010 12:40 PM, ben russell wrote:
>>     Frameworkers,
>>
>>     Until those long-awaited words of review-and-criticism about
>>     VIEWS make their way beyond social networking sites, here are
>>     some images by yours truly of the film/video weekend in question
>>     (with special appearances by Mark McElhatten and Gavin Smith as
>>     Francis Bacon paintings and the silhouette of Vincent Grenier's
>>     hair): http://mubi.com/notebook/posts/2422
>>
>>     Enjoy,
>>
>>     BR
>>
>>
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