[Frameworks] Views From the Avant-Garde 2010

[jeanne LIOTTA]

Nope. Sorry I'm with Luther Blissett on this one. He may indeed be the true
voice of the aformentioned and spuriously invoked 'community' ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luther_Blissett_%28nom_de_plume%29

On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 8:46 AM, gregg biermann <mubbazoo at optonline.net>wrote:

>  Hi Jeanne,
> Of course that is true of me as well ... but doesn't that make my
> suggestion reasonable?
> G
>
>
> On 10/14/2010 3:42 PM, jeanne LIOTTA wrote:
>
> I've never been in a show in my life that didn't represent the views of the
> curators.
> Jeanne 'just sayin' Liotta
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 12:01 PM, gregg biermann <mubbazoo at optonline.net>wrote:
>
>>  Ben  -- Frameworkers,
>>
>> I cannot give you a review of the screenings but only my general feelings
>> about the many years of screenings that I had attended in the past. My beef
>> with the programming is that the Views represents only the views of Mark
>> McElhatten and Gavin Smith. The screenings have a gravitational pull in this
>> community perhaps in large part to their institutional affiliation with
>> Lincoln Center. Whatever the reason, the programmers do not seem to take
>> seriously what I see as a special responsibility to present the breadth and
>> depth of what is really being produced out there in this mode. If these
>> screenings have become the central venue for avant-garde cinema, the
>> programming cannot be arbitrary. It needs to get beyond the peculiar tastes
>> of the programmers (even keeping in mind Mark's long time commitment to
>> programming in the avant-garde idiom).  As an artist that was repeatedly
>> ignored by the programmers and eventually stopped attending the screenings
>> altogether, I felt compelled to contact Smith directly about a year ago. Of
>> course I complained about being undervalued but more importantly to this
>> group, I told him that I thought that these screenings had become uptight
>> and insular -- an insider game. I suggested to Gavin that the best way to
>> avoid that perception among artists that are productive and committed to
>> avant-garde cinema and repeatedly not included in the screenings would be to
>> have a different guest programmer join them each year. I had hoped that he
>> would take my criticism as constructive but he rejected the idea out of hand
>> and certainly did not allow that I in any way had a valid point. As far as
>> expanding the list of programmers and getting another view as to what is
>> valuable in a given year -- I doubt that this will happen unless this
>> community demands it.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Gregg
>>
>>
>> On 10/13/2010 12:40 PM, ben russell wrote:
>>
>>  Frameworkers,
>>
>> Until those long-awaited words of review-and-criticism about VIEWS make
>> their way beyond social networking sites, here are some images by yours
>> truly of the film/video weekend in question (with special appearances by
>> Mark McElhatten and Gavin Smith as Francis Bacon paintings and the
>> silhouette of Vincent Grenier's hair):
>> http://mubi.com/notebook/posts/2422
>>
>> Enjoy,
>>
>> BR
>>
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