[Frameworks] cameraless films...or ?

[Beebe,Roger W]

Shelly,

I was thinking that the subject line might actually be sending people in the wrong direction.  If you were simply looking for "cameraless" films, then there'd be a million suggestions (starting with Len Lye, Norman McLaren, Harry Smith, et al.).  But the Frampton is really about "filmless films," which it seems to me is a really different matter.  A cameraless film is something that you could still "get a copy" of; a "filmless film" has no body, is all time and light and performance, so there'd be no way to simply get a copy (like the Gibson/Recoder projector performances--at best you could get a "documentation").  I do really like the suggestion of the Morgan Fisher, but it's hard to come up with a long list of films that are reproducible that are true to the spirit of Frampton's musings on light & projectors.  (Of course, that distinction could be an interesting part of the class discussion.)

Two (more) cents,
Roger

On Dec 25, 2010, at 10:18 AM, Shelly Silver wrote:

> Thanks!  Do you know where I might get a copy of this?
> 
> 
> Shelly
> 
> 
> On Dec 25, 2010, at 9:51 AM, Madison Brookshire wrote:
> 
>> Projection Instructions by Morgan Fisher.
>> 
>> Madison Brookshire
>> Los Angeles
>> 
>> On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Beebe,Roger W <rogerbb at ufl.edu>  
>> wrote:
>>> Get Luis Recoder and Sandra Gibson to come to your class and do  
>>> some projector performances!  (That'd be the obvious fit, but I  
>>> don't know how realistic it'd be to try to make that happen.)
>>> 
>>> Good luck,
>>> Roger
>>> 
>>> On Dec 24, 2010, at 1:29 PM, Shelly Silver wrote:
>>> 
>>>> dear all:
>>>> i'm doing a class with a reperformance of Hollis Frampton's 'A
>>>> Lecture' as its centerpiece.  Any suggestions of films that would  
>>>> play
>>>> well with this?
>>>> 
>>>> best!
>>>> shelly
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> FrameWorks mailing list
>>>> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
>>>> http://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> FrameWorks mailing list
>>> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
>>> http://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
>>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> FrameWorks mailing list
>> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
>> http://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
> 
> _______________________________________________
> FrameWorks mailing list
> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> http://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks