[Frameworks] cameraless films...or ?

[Shelly Silver]

yes, it's true very true roger, i was aware/nervous about this when i  
sent it, that's why i put 'play well together.'  i unfortunately don't  
have enough time/resources to spend an entire class on various  
performed camera-less films.  the frampton brings up a huge range of  
issues (among them sitting in the dark w/strangers) not only having to  
do with the fact that it's camera-less and i was hoping to expand out  
from there.  i also like the idea of starting off with the idea of  
reperformance (speaking in someone else's voice twice removed).

i guess i'm casting the net wide, looking for experiments in thinking  
about film - i could also happily show a warhol in the mix (endurance/ 
movement/non-movement).  again a question of accessibility and time  
and framing.

shelly







On Dec 25, 2010, at 12:21 PM, Beebe,Roger W wrote:

> Shelly,
>
> I was thinking that the subject line might actually be sending  
> people in the wrong direction.  If you were simply looking for  
> "cameraless" films, then there'd be a million suggestions (starting  
> with Len Lye, Norman McLaren, Harry Smith, et al.).  But the  
> Frampton is really about "filmless films," which it seems to me is a  
> really different matter.  A cameraless film is something that you  
> could still "get a copy" of; a "filmless film" has no body, is all  
> time and light and performance, so there'd be no way to simply get a  
> copy (like the Gibson/Recoder projector performances--at best you  
> could get a "documentation").  I do really like the suggestion of  
> the Morgan Fisher, but it's hard to come up with a long list of  
> films that are reproducible that are true to the spirit of  
> Frampton's musings on light & projectors.  (Of course, that  
> distinction could be an interesting part of the class discussion.)
>
> Two (more) cents,
> Roger
>
> On Dec 25, 2010, at 10:18 AM, Shelly Silver wrote:
>
>> Thanks!  Do you know where I might get a copy of this?
>>
>>
>> Shelly
>>
>>
>> On Dec 25, 2010, at 9:51 AM, Madison Brookshire wrote:
>>
>>> Projection Instructions by Morgan Fisher.
>>>
>>> Madison Brookshire
>>> Los Angeles
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Beebe,Roger W <rogerbb at ufl.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Get Luis Recoder and Sandra Gibson to come to your class and do
>>>> some projector performances!  (That'd be the obvious fit, but I
>>>> don't know how realistic it'd be to try to make that happen.)
>>>>
>>>> Good luck,
>>>> Roger
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 24, 2010, at 1:29 PM, Shelly Silver wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> dear all:
>>>>> i'm doing a class with a reperformance of Hollis Frampton's 'A
>>>>> Lecture' as its centerpiece.  Any suggestions of films that would
>>>>> play
>>>>> well with this?
>>>>>
>>>>> best!
>>>>> shelly
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