[Frameworks] Experimental Documentary

[Matt Helme]

The main point being, people who are considered"Experimental" have tended to 
make the same kind of film, but are still considered "Experimental".
Matt





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From: Beverly O'Neill <bevon1 at earthlink.net>
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Sent: Sun, July 18, 2010 9:17:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Experimental Documentary

Dear Matt Helme,  Has he become conventional yet?  While he defined the 
Pittsburgh trilogy as documentaries  I've always viewed the majority of his work 
in that light, although not exclusively.
  
Several titles to suggest: MANUFACTURED LANDSCAPES by Jennifer Bainal who filmed 
the still photographer Edwin Burtynsky as he traveled throughout industrial 
China capturing contemporary industrial life in ways we've never experienced; MY 
WINNIPEG, Guy Maddin's very successful autobiographic portrait of his childhood.


By way of ancedote,  Pat O'Neill won 1st prize for a documentary in 1989 at 
Sundance with a piece called  WATER AND POWER.  Peter Wollen served as a juror 
that year and decided to challenge the festival's standards and definitions 
about what constituted a documentary.  Pat received 1 phone call after he 
returned home with the award from an L.A. film critic wanting to review the 
work.  She tore the film to shreds.  That prize never attracted anyone else's 
attention to the piece, though it  achieved a splendid viewing history in 
another context..  He has the Sundance crystal with an etched citation as 
evidence that it wasn't a hallucination. 

Maybe the idea of documentaries flew out the window with the persistence of 
vision.
 Beverly O'Neill

  
How many film's did Brakhage make? Was he considered conventional in 2000?
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