[Frameworks] this guy's youtube channel has copyrighted experimental film work on it, who is this guy????

[Sasha Janerus]

Bleu Shut itself doubtless infringed on a few copyrights.

On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 12:04 AM, Myron Ort <zeno at sonic.net> wrote:

> I made time this evening to sit down and watch the whole film.  Nice
> surprise, when viewing it "full screen"  youtube automatically connected all
> the sections! , not 100% seamless, but much better than the usual.
> Time (30 min.) flies when you are having so much fun, I didn't have a
> problem watching it in this "media". I haven't seen this film in years,
> since it was first screened at the Art Institute Canyon Thurs. eve.
> screenings.
> Legalities aside, the experience was positive I would say, especially since
> I didn't have to take time from my busy schedule to book a flight and take
> some days off to see it on the big screen somewhere in the world where it
> might be showing, not that that wouldn't be fun too.
> Bob Nelson! what a great humorist of the film.  I still want to know what
> the other main aspect  was to his film "theory"...it got cut off, ha ha.   I
> forgot about that great classic CU "quoted" sequence  being in there --
> starting with the young A. Artaud (telling{?}  you know...
>
> Myron Ort
>
>
>
> On Jul 15, 2011, at 4:11 PM, Matt Helme wrote:
>
> I saw the whole thing out of curiosity.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/user/oscarthepug1234 http://www.matthelme.webs.com/
>
> --- On *Fri, 7/15/11, Myron Ort <zeno at sonic.net>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Myron Ort <zeno at sonic.net>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] this guy's youtube channel has copyrighted
> experimental film work on it, who is this guy????
> To: "Experimental Film Discussion List" <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Date: Friday, July 15, 2011, 5:08 PM
>
> I noticed that  drop-out rate too, even though there is a clock
> gimick in the film to help you stay with it.
>
> Myron Ort
>
>
> On Jul 15, 2011, at 1:36 PM, Chuck Kleinhans wrote:
>
> > I don't have an answer to the question asked, but it is kind of
> > curious data in that it lets us see how fast the drop off is of
> > people who would watch the whole film.  Bleu Shut loses 3/4ths of
> > its viewers after the first quarter; Flaming Creatures only has
> > 1/10 of its initial viewers for the last part.
> >
> > I guess that's why Old School experimentalists did theatrical
> > exhibition: harder for folks to walk out when they've already paid
> > but are stuck in an auditorium.  Free screenings...ptui!  No
> > investment, no loyalty.  Argh, these kids today!  And hey, get off
> > my lawn!
> >
> > Chuck Kleinhans
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