[Frameworks] Facebook: PLEASE STOP

Tue Jun 14 01:21:34 CDT 2011

Remember, you don't have to read the threads you don't want to read........
this has only been going on for 1 day, geez...there have been far more obnoxious threads on Frameworks
that have gone on far longer......

> From: darce at visualosmosis.com
> To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 08:16:40 +0200
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Facebook: PLEASE STOP
> 
> Everyone I've known whose ever left Frameworks was because the threads  
> here became less about film and were filled with long threads about  
> other things completely IRRELEVANT to filmmaking.
> 
> Some people don't like Facebook or web forums or email but everyone  
> needs an email address to participate in the first two. There are  
> other experimental film discussion groups and possible on web forums  
> and now on facebook.
> 
> So, please, just Stop!
> 
> Diana
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> On 14.06.2011, at 07:55, Ken Bawcom wrote:
> 
> > As one who is not interested in being a part of Facebook, I do think
> > that a modern web forum would serve Frameworkers much better than
> > listserv. Separate areas, separate threads, easy to navigate, and find
> > what interests you. I think it would engender much more discussion
> > than there is here already, plus bring in more participants.
> >
> > I participate at a few web forums. The software I like best is called
> > vBulletin. A very small forum, and a very large forum I frequent use
> > this software. I doubt that it is expensive, but it would take a fair
> > amount of time and effort to transfer Frameworks to that format. So,
> > even if Pip liked the idea, it might not be possible, unless someone
> > with the skill volunteers to help.
> >
> > Ken B.
> >
> >
> > Quoting D Dawson <decodawson at shaw.ca>:
> >
> >> I agree, I think it would be considered spam if it weren¹t official
> >> Frameworks member correspondence... Sort of like those recent  
> >> ³request to
> >> join linkedin² emails.
> >>
> >> Which technically it would be spam.
> >>
> >> Call it Frameworks2 or Worksframe... Or whatever you want, but I  
> >> suggest not
> >> linking it to the listserv until you have permission to do so.  So  
> >> far there
> >> has been a resounding number of people who are not interested in  
> >> being a
> >> part of Facebook.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 6/13/11 11:23 PM, "Monica Angrand" <monicaangrand at gmail.com>  
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I think you need copyright permission to use any of the names
> >>> associated with
> >>> this list. If you must, I suggest just creating your own  
> >>> experimental film
> >>> discussion facebook group and if people want to join, they will.
> >>>
> >>> On Jun 13, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Mason Shefa wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I think I have a solution!! How about we set the email address of  
> >>>> the
> >>>> Facebook group to be "frameworks @jonasmekasfilms.com" and that  
> >>>> way, people
> >>>> who don't want to be on the Facebook group can keep using the  
> >>>> listserv, and
> >>>> people who do will be able to post both on facebook and the  
> >>>> listserv
> >>>> simultaneously!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> __________________
> >>>> Mason Shefa, Yale '15
> >>>> www.masonshefa.com <http://www.masonshefa.com>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jun 13, 2011, at 9:08 PM, Mason Shefa wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> What should I call it? Hi-Beam Experimental Discussion Group?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> __________________
> >>>>> Mason Shefa, Yale '15
> >>>>> www.masonshefa.com <http://www.masonshefa.com/>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Jun 13, 2011, at 9:04 PM, jack at jacktext.net wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> not sure you should call it frameworks....
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 14/06/2011, at 1:58 PM, Mason Shefa wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_178216555569455
> >>>>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_178216555569455>  
> >>>>>>> Join if you
> >>>>>>> want :)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ___________________
> >>>>>>> Mason Shefa
> >>>>>>> www.masonshefa.com <http://www.masonshefa.com/>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Jun 13, 2011, at 8:29 PM, Carlileb at aol.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> In a message dated 6/13/2011 8:06:57 P.M. Pacific Daylight  
> >>>>>>>> Time,
> >>>>>>>> bhinton at gmail.com writes:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Working   in a format or venue that makes sense to people  
> >>>>>>>>> much younger
> >>>>>>>>> than most of us,   and certainly, say, to film students and  
> >>>>>>>>> young
> >>>>>>>>> experimental makers, is   therefore important.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> No it's not. Screw 'em. And when Facebook gets old, what then?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> FB makes everything look the same. Everything.
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