[Frameworks] a question about negative film stock for s-8mm

Marco Poloni mar.poloni at gmail.com
Thu May 23 00:08:43 UTC 2013


Thanks Dickie, the footage is very beautiful indeed. I can also
confirm that Fuji Velvia is amazing in 35mm slides.

On 22 May 2013 22:38, Dicky <dickyvanness at gmail.com> wrote:
> The Fuji Velvia looks quite nice as Super 8. If you want to see what it
> looks like, watch some of Paul Clipson's films. I am pretty sure he said
> that Another Void was mostly shot on Velvia... I've personally shot very
> little of it on Super 8 but shoot a good deal of Velvia for 35mm slides...
>
> On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Buck Bito - Movette <buck at movettefilm.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Marco,
>> I've never been happy with Super-8 neg. and the loss of Ekta 100D spells
>> the end of color Super-8 for me. Even on the most serious Super-8 scanner
>> I know of in the U.S. at Cinelicious I see what you are complaining about
>> when it comes to the skies and other areas that should be 'fluid'. I love
>> reversal grain in 8 and Super-8, but the grain from Vision when blown up
>> from Super-8 looks mostly like dust or sensor/video noise to me.
>> Here is a piece on Vimeo that was scanned at Cinelicious using Vision3
>> 200T and 500T and the skies in particular look terrible to me...
>> http://vimeo.com/55509028
>>
>> Perhaps Vision3 50D 5203 would be worth a try... To my knowledge I haven't
>> had any clients bring us this stock on Super-8 yet and it is supposed to
>> be the finest grain for Vision3.
>>
>> http://motion.kodak.com/motion/Products/Production/Color_Negative_Films/5203.htm
>>
>> R.I.P. Ekta 100D...
>> Here's a search return from Vimeo for Super-8 100D that looks a lot better
>> in the skies although I've seen even much nicer 100D footage:
>> http://vimeo.com/4530359
>>
>> -Sorry I don't have better solutions for you, but I'll wish you good luck
>> with your project!
>> --Sincerely,
>> ---Buck Bito
>>
>> Lawrence "Buck" Bito
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>> On Wed, May 22, 2013 10:38 am, Marco Poloni wrote:
>> > Dear Frameworkers,
>> >
>> > I have a question about film stock for Super-8mm.
>> >
>> > I am back from a scouting trip for a 16mm film project. I did all the
>> > location filming in Super-8mm because I wanted to use the material in
>> > the film as well. I worked with my Leicina Special with a Schneider
>> > Optivaron 6-66mm zoom, which had just been revised, and with Kodak
>> > Vision 3 200T and 500T, a stock that I well know and love when used in
>> > 16mm. The material was scanned in AppleProRes422 on an Ursa Diamond in
>> > a laboratory in Turin, Italy: Nova Rolfilm. People who were
>> > recommended to me and do very good work.
>> >
>> > The result is very disappointing. The footage is super grainy, looking
>> > kind of OK when I'm filming objects but terrible on skies: exploded,
>> > saturated, not fluid. I know the problem is neither the camera nor the
>> > lens. I have shot excellent b&w footage with this camera.
>> >
>> > <...SNIP...>
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Marco
>> >
>>
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