[Frameworks] a question about negative film stock for s-8mm

Marco Poloni mar.poloni at gmail.com
Thu May 23 00:15:05 UTC 2013


PS Andec FIlm here in Berlin sells Wittner Chrome V50 D (reversible)
cartridges (the Material inside is Fujchrome Velvia 50 Daylight):
http://www.andecfilm.de/en/e_s8_e6-ec64t.htm

As I said I should make a test Kodak Vision 3 50D vs Velvia 50D...

Thanks again Buck!
M

On 22 May 2013 22:35, Buck Bito - Movette <buck at movettefilm.com> wrote:
> Hi Marco,
> I've never been happy with Super-8 neg. and the loss of Ekta 100D spells
> the end of color Super-8 for me. Even on the most serious Super-8 scanner
> I know of in the U.S. at Cinelicious I see what you are complaining about
> when it comes to the skies and other areas that should be 'fluid'. I love
> reversal grain in 8 and Super-8, but the grain from Vision when blown up
> from Super-8 looks mostly like dust or sensor/video noise to me.
> Here is a piece on Vimeo that was scanned at Cinelicious using Vision3
> 200T and 500T and the skies in particular look terrible to me...
> http://vimeo.com/55509028
>
> Perhaps Vision3 50D 5203 would be worth a try... To my knowledge I haven't
> had any clients bring us this stock on Super-8 yet and it is supposed to
> be the finest grain for Vision3.
> http://motion.kodak.com/motion/Products/Production/Color_Negative_Films/5203.htm
>
> R.I.P. Ekta 100D...
> Here's a search return from Vimeo for Super-8 100D that looks a lot better
> in the skies although I've seen even much nicer 100D footage:
> http://vimeo.com/4530359
>
> -Sorry I don't have better solutions for you, but I'll wish you good luck
> with your project!
> --Sincerely,
> ---Buck Bito
>
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> On Wed, May 22, 2013 10:38 am, Marco Poloni wrote:
>> Dear Frameworkers,
>>
>> I have a question about film stock for Super-8mm.
>>
>> I am back from a scouting trip for a 16mm film project. I did all the
>> location filming in Super-8mm because I wanted to use the material in
>> the film as well. I worked with my Leicina Special with a Schneider
>> Optivaron 6-66mm zoom, which had just been revised, and with Kodak
>> Vision 3 200T and 500T, a stock that I well know and love when used in
>> 16mm. The material was scanned in AppleProRes422 on an Ursa Diamond in
>> a laboratory in Turin, Italy: Nova Rolfilm. People who were
>> recommended to me and do very good work.
>>
>> The result is very disappointing. The footage is super grainy, looking
>> kind of OK when I'm filming objects but terrible on skies: exploded,
>> saturated, not fluid. I know the problem is neither the camera nor the
>> lens. I have shot excellent b&w footage with this camera.
>>
>> <...SNIP...>
>>
>> Best,
>> Marco
>>
>
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