[Frameworks] Super8 200D reversal

Sat May 25 15:59:50 UTC 2013

mixed news on Pro-8's new color reversal s-8 stock.
First, it's polyester based (like Fujichrome was) and that means   
cement splicing doesn't work and second, Pro-8 is only selling the  
film with processing included and the price is $45 a roll.  Not great  
news for us hand-processors....

Janis Crystal Lipzin
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>       (William Wees, Dr.)
>    7. Re: Texts on appropriation, collage and ethics/fair use
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>    8. New Super 8 200D Reversal Stock!!! (Ken Paul Rosenthal)
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>   10. Re: Texts on appropriation, collage and ethics/fair use
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 09:50:34 -0700
> From: "Adam R. Levine" <adamrl at gmail.com>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Subject: [Frameworks] Texts on appropriation, collage and ethics/fair
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> Hello,
>
> I'm looking for any books or short texts that might offer a survey  
> of the
> history and practice of the appropriation and collage in the field of
> moving images. In addition, if there is any such work that also  
> address
> questions of copyright, ethics and fair use, that would be great.
>
> Thanks,
> Adam
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> Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 14:00:25 -0300
> From: Francisco Torres <fjtorrespr at gmail.com>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Texts on appropriation, collage and
> 	ethics/fair use
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> this one is pretty good.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Cutting-Across-Media-Appropriation- 
> Interventionist/dp/0822348225
> Cutting Across Media: Appropriation Art, Interventionist Collage, and
> Copyright Law
>
>
> On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Adam R. Levine <adamrl at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm looking for any books or short texts that might offer a survey  
>> of the
>> history and practice of the appropriation and collage in the field of
>> moving images. In addition, if there is any such work that also  
>> address
>> questions of copyright, ethics and fair use, that would be great.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Adam
>>
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> Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 19:05:03 +0200
> From: Christian Gosvig Olesen <christian.gosvig at gmail.com>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Texts on appropriation, collage and
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> This one is in french but is one of the most helpful I have come  
> across:
>
> http://lucdall.free.fr/workshops/IAV07/documents/found- 
> footage_n_brenez.pdf
>
>
> 2013/5/24 Francisco Torres <fjtorrespr at gmail.com>
>
>> this one is pretty good.
>>
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Cutting-Across-Media-Appropriation- 
>> Interventionist/dp/0822348225
>> Cutting Across Media: Appropriation Art, Interventionist Collage, and
>> Copyright Law
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Adam R. Levine <adamrl at gmail.com>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm looking for any books or short texts that might offer a  
>>> survey of the
>>> history and practice of the appropriation and collage in the  
>>> field of
>>> moving images. In addition, if there is any such work that also  
>>> address
>>> questions of copyright, ethics and fair use, that would be great.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Adam
>>>
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>>> FrameWorks mailing list
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> Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 20:58:34 +0200
> From: adeena.mey at unil.ch
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Texts on appropriation, collage and
> 	ethics/fair use
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> This book on Abigail Child:
> http://www.metispresses.ch/ps_child_anglais.html
> Best,
> A.
>
>
>
>
> On vendredi 24/05/2013 at 18:51:52, Adam R. Levine  a écrit:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm looking for any books or short texts that might offer a survey of
>> the history and practice of the appropriation and collage in the  
>> field
>> of moving images. In addition, if there is any such work that also
>> address questions of copyright, ethics and fair use, that would be
>> great.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Adam_______________________________________________
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> Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 16:21:38 -0400
> From: "Watter, Seth" <seth_watter at brown.edu>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Texts on appropriation, collage and
> 	ethics/fair use
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> 'films beget films' by jay leyda is a classic, and might be the  
> earliest
> study of 'found footage' in film history.
>
> seth
>
>
> On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Adam R. Levine <adamrl at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm looking for any books or short texts that might offer a survey  
>> of the
>> history and practice of the appropriation and collage in the field of
>> moving images. In addition, if there is any such work that also  
>> address
>> questions of copyright, ethics and fair use, that would be great.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Adam
>>
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> From: "William Wees, Dr." <william.wees at mcgill.ca>
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> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Texts on appropriation, collage and
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> Recycled Images: The Art and Politics of Found-Footage Films by  
> William C. Wees, distributed by Anthology Film Archives.
>
> --Bill Wees
>
>
> From: FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com] On  
> Behalf Of Adam R. Levine
> Sent: May 24, 2013 12:51 PM
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List
> Subject: [Frameworks] Texts on appropriation, collage and ethics/ 
> fair use
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm looking for any books or short texts that might offer a survey  
> of the history and practice of the appropriation and collage in the  
> field of moving images. In addition, if there is any such work that  
> also address questions of copyright, ethics and fair use, that  
> would be great.
>
> Thanks,
> Adam
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> Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 13:48:32 -0700
> From: David Tetzlaff <djtet53 at gmail.com>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Texts on appropriation, collage and
> 	ethics/fair use
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> Not nec. film specific, but there's tons of stuff on appropriation,  
> collage, copyright and fair use. Much of it is related to audio  
> collage as both an avant garde practice and pop culture 'mashups'.  
> The discussions are generally applicable to found footage films,  
> though.
>
> An essential text is Craig Baldwin's film "Sonic Outlaws".
>
> For the whole question of Fair Use of images, moving or otherwise,  
> you'll also want to check the essential materials available on the  
> website of the Center for Social Media at American University.
>
> Filmmakers working in collage and appropriation seem not to discuss  
> the issues surrounding their work as much as artists in other media  
> do. You might look into the websites, publications, videos etc.  
> produced by Negativland RTMark, Stay Free magazine, Public Works  
> etc. Also the various writings on 'Neoism'.
>
> The afore-cited "Cutting Across Media" should offer a list of  
> contributors whose other works are worth looking into, and be a  
> good starting place for a bibliography.
>
> (Again, none of this is really film specific, though...)
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 14:44:14 -0700
> From: Ken Paul Rosenthal <kenpaulrosenthal at hotmail.com>
> To: Frameworks Postings <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Subject: [Frameworks] New Super 8 200D Reversal Stock!!!
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> NEW SUPER 8 200D REVERSAL STOCK from Pro 8mm:
>
> http://www.pro8mm.com/blog/say-hello-to-color-reversal-super-8-film- 
> again-pro8mm-introduces-new-color-reversal-film-stock/
>
>
> Ken
> www.kenpaulrosenthal.comwww.crookedbeauty.comwww.maddancementalhealthf 
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> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 22:23:03 +0000
> From: Roger Wilson <rogerdwilson at sympatico.ca>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] New Super 8 200D Reversal Stock!!!
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> Awesome News Ken!
>
> Roger D. Wilson613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson at sympatico.cahttp:// 
> www.rogerdwilson.ca
> Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my  
> process and my career as an experimental film artist on this  
> statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to  
> try something different, something new.
>
> From: kenpaulrosenthal at hotmail.com
> To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 14:44:14 -0700
> Subject: [Frameworks] New Super 8 200D Reversal Stock!!!
>
>
>
>
> NEW SUPER 8 200D REVERSAL STOCK from Pro 8mm:
>
> http://www.pro8mm.com/blog/say-hello-to-color-reversal-super-8-film- 
> again-pro8mm-introduces-new-color-reversal-film-stock/
>
>
> Ken
> www.kenpaulrosenthal.comwww.crookedbeauty.comwww.maddancementalhealthf 
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> Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 09:25:15 +0200
> From: Fred Truniger <fred.truniger at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Texts on appropriation, collage and
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> hi all
> this is an excerpt of a list I made a couple of years ago with  
> materials on ff-film. some of it is in german even for texts  
> originally written in english. you should be able to find these in  
> english, too.
> hope it helps,
> fred
>
>
> Arthur, Paul: Lost and Found: American Avant-Garde Film in the  
> Eighties. In: Nelly Voorhuis: A Passage Illuminated. The American  
> Avant-Garde Film 1980-1990. Amsterdam 1991. S. 15-29.
> Arthur, Paul: The Status of Found Footage. In: Spectator, 20.1,  
> Fall/Winter 2000. Los Angeles 2000. S. 57-69.
> Baldwin, Craig: From Junk to Funk to Punk to Link. In: Anker,  
> Steve; Geritz, Kathy; Seid Steve (Hrsg.): Radical Light.  
> Alternative Film & Video in the San Francisco Bay Area, 1945-2000.  
> Berkeley 2010. S. 95-100.
> Basilico, Stefano: Cut. Film as Found Object in Contemporary Video.  
> Milwaukee 2004.
> Beauvais, Yann: Found Footage. Vom Wandel der Bilder. In: Blimp,  
> Heft 16. Graz 1991. S. 4-11.
> Beauvais, Yann: Verloren und wiedergefunden. In: Cecilia Hausheer,  
> Christoph Settele: Found Footage Film. Luzern 1992. S. 8-25.
> Blümlinger, Christa: Zwischen den Bildern/Lesen. In: Christa  
> Blümlinger; Constantin Wulff (Hrsg.): Schreiben Bilder Sprechen.  
> Texte zum essayistischen Film. Wien 1992.
> Blümlinger, Christa: Kino aus zweiter Hand. Zur Ästhetik  
> materieller Aneignung im Film und in der Medienkunst. Berlin 2009.
> Bovier, François (Hrsg.): Is This What You Were Born For?  
> Strategies of Appropriation and Audio-Visual Collage in the Films  
> of Abigail Child. Geneva 2011.
> Cahill, James Leo: ...and Afterwards? Martin Arnold's Phantom  
> Cinema. In: Spectator, 27.3: Supplement 2007. Los Angeles 2007. S.  
> 19-25.
> Child, Abigail: This is Called Moving. A Critical Poetics of Film.  
> Tuscalosa, Alabama 2005.
> Christine N. Brinckmann: Die poetische Verkettung der Bilder. In:  
> montage/av. 20/1/2011. Marburg 2012. S. 29-43.
> Danks, Adrian: The Global Art of Found Footage Cinema. In: Linda  
> Badley; R. Barton Palmer; Steven Jay Schneider (Hrsg.): Traditions  
> in World Cinema. Edinburgh 2006.
> Halter, Ed: Recycle it. Internet: http://www.movingimagesource.us/ 
> articles/recycle-it-20080710 (Internetzugriff am: 1.2.2012).
> Hauptmann, Jodi: Joseph Cornell. Stargazing the Cinema. New Haven  
> 1999.
> Hausheer, Cecilia; Settele, Christoph: Found Footage Film. Luzern  
> 1992.
> Hoolboom, Mike; MacKenzie, Alex: Loop, Print, Fade and Flicker.  
> David Rimmer's Moving Images. Vancouver 2009.
> Horwath, Alexander; Loebenstein, Michael (Hrsg.): Peter  
> Tscherkassky. Wien 2005.
> James, David E.: Allegories of Cinema. American Film in the  
> Sixties. Princeton 1989.
> Kirchmann, Kay: Bildermüll und Wiederverwertung. Eine  
> medientheoretische Perspektive auf Formen und Funktionen des  
> Bilderrecyclings im Found-Footage-Film. In: Thomas Koebner; Thomas  
> Meder (Hrsg.): Bildtheorie und Film. München 2006. S. 497-512.
> Leyda, Jay: Films beget Films. In: London. London 1964.
> O'Pray, Michael: From Dada to Junk. Bruce Conner And the Found- 
> Footage Film. In: Monthly Film Bulletin. London 1987. S. 315-316.
> Peterson, James: Bruce Conner and the Compilation Narrative. In:  
> Wide Angle, Vol. 8, Nr. 3/4. Special Issue Narrative/Non-Narrative.  
> Ann Arbor 1986. S. 53-62.
> Peterson, James: Making Sense of Found Footage. In: Cecilia  
> Hausheer, Christoph Settele: Found Footage Film. Luzern 1992. S.  
> 54-75.
> Peterson, James: Dreams of Chaos, Visions of Order. Understanding  
> the American Avant-Garde Cinema. Detroit 1994.
> Sandusky, Sharon: Archäologie der Erlösung. Eine Einführung in den  
> Archivkunstfilm. In: Blimp, Heft 16. Graz 1991. S. 14-22.
> Sitney, P Adams: The Cinematic Gaze of Joseph Cornell. In: McShine,  
> Kynaston (Hrsg.): Joseph Cornell. München 1990. S. 69-89.
> Sitney, P. Adams: Visionary Film: The American Avant-Garde. Oxford  
> 1979.
> Sitney, P. Adams: Eyes Upside Down. Oxford 2008.
> Sjöberg, Patrik: The World in Pieces: A Study of Compilation Films.  
> Stockholm 2001.
> Skoller, Jeffrey: Shadows, Specters, Shards. Making History in  
> Avant-Garde Film. Minneapolis 2005.
> Taylor, Henry McKean: Der Krieg eines Einzelnen. Eine fimische  
> Auseinandersetzung mit der Geschichte. Zürich 1995.
> Ursula Blickle Stiftung et. al. (Hrsg.): Bruce Conner. Die 70er  
> Jahre. Nürnberg 2010.
> Vertov, Dziga: Kinoki – Umsturz. In: Texte zur Theorie des Films  
> (Reclam). Stuttgart 1979. S. 24-38.
> Wees, William C: Recycled Images. New York 1993.
> Wees, William C.: Old Images, New Meanings: Reontextualizing  
> Archival Footage of Nazism and the Holocaust. In: Spectator, 20.1,  
> Fall/Winter 2000. Los Angeles 2000. S. 70-76.
> Zryd, Michael: Found Footage-Film als diskursive Metageschichte.  
> Craig Baldwins TRIBULATION 99. In: montage/av. 11/1/2002. Berlin  
> 2002. S. 113-134.
>
>
>
> Am 24.05.2013 um 18:50 schrieb Adam R. Levine:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm looking for any books or short texts that might offer a survey  
>> of the history and practice of the appropriation and collage in  
>> the field of moving images. In addition, if there is any such work  
>> that also address questions of copyright, ethics and fair use,  
>> that would be great.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Adam
>> _______________________________________________
>> FrameWorks mailing list
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