[Frameworks] Paul Sharits multi-projection question

Wed Apr 2 17:49:57 UTC 2014

Thanks for the detailed notes everyone! Very helpful. Many cheers,

On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Andy Ditzler
<andy at andyditzler.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','andy at andyditzler.com');>
> wrote:

> Thanks, Peter and Herb, for these clarifications. Looking back at Sharits'
> instructions, the only confusing thing is he asks the projectionist to
> follow a separate diagram of how to project Version B, and this diagram is
> not included. But I agree that you can work out how to do Version B from
> his verbal description, albeit with some keystoning.
>
> Andy
>
>
> Andy Ditzler
> www.filmlove.org
> www.johnq.org
> Graduate Institute of the Liberal Arts, Emory University
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Herb Shellenberger <HerbS at ihphilly.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','HerbS at ihphilly.org');>
> > wrote:
>
>>  What Peter said. "Version B" was accomplished at a screening here with
>> relatively little difficulty a few years ago just by tilting the
>> projectors, which were running in the middle of the stadium seating, rather
>> than from the booth, to the side a little at timed intervals. The
>> instructions give the times. I believe the keystoning was pretty minor, but
>> that's not the point anyway. Seeing the gradually overlapping images was
>> really interesting, especially when they were fully on top of each other.
>> Peter Kubelka's Monument Film screening at NYFF 2012 also used the
>> technique of projecting flicker films directly on top of each other.
>>
>>
>>
>> As to Ekrem's original question, I don't have anything to add
>> unfortunately.
>>
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>> *From:* FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com');>]
>> *On Behalf Of *Peter Mudie
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 01, 2014 9:56 AM
>>
>> *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List
>> *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] Paul Sharits multi-projection question
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>>
>> Andy - you slowly move the left projector to the right and the right
>> projector to the left until the frames align as one.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> (Perth)
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>> *From: *Andy Ditzler <andy at andyditzler.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','andy at andyditzler.com');>
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>> *Subject: *Re: [Frameworks] Paul Sharits multi-projection question
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Ekrem,
>>
>>
>>
>> I rented and showed Shutter Interface to my students last fall, and will
>> do so again in a few months. In preparation, I talked to some folks who
>> have also taught the film (hi Jeanne Liotta!) and went looking through all
>> the Sharits writings I could find for any reference to the difference
>> between gallery and theater versions, but found very little on this. I have
>> the same rationale - he made the two-projector version and it remains
>> rentable, so I rent it and show it. It's a super-accessible work.
>>
>>
>>
>> A couple of things - the written instructions you get from Film Coop
>> inside the film can are ambiguous. Use version "A." Version B mentions the
>> effect of making the two frames slowly merge on screen - but gives no
>> instructions for how to accomplish this. (Maybe someone here can clarify?)
>> And the soundtrack needs some extra care, since each projector will have
>> its own sound. So if you are running it through the house PA, you will need
>> to configure the channels so it's stereo sound, not mono. I couldn't access
>> the house PA for this, so my solution was to bring two powered monitor
>> speakers of my own, and run 1/4" out from each Eiki projector to its
>> corresponding speaker. More work, but as you know that's what you're
>> getting into with expanded cinema anyway. By the way, the sound happens
>> only on the black frames. If you know that as you're watching the work,
>> it's even cooler.
>>
>>
>>
>> It's a fantastic projection experience and we all loved it. I left some
>> room behind the projectors for the students to go and observe the color
>> frames as they moved through the projector. If you can see that as you
>> observe the screen, there's no more spectacular lesson in the nature of
>> film projection (that is, the "conversion" of still frames to "motion").
>>
>>
>>
>> Andy Ditzler
>>
>> www.filmlove.org
>>
>> www.johnq.org
>>
>> Graduate Institute of the Liberal Arts, Emory University
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 1:02 AM, Ekrem Serdar <ekremserdar at gmail.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ekremserdar at gmail.com');>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Heyya Framers,
>>
>>
>>
>>   So based on his notes, it seems that many of Paul Sharits'
>> multi-projector pieces (Shutter Interface, Dream Displacement, among
>> others) are primarily conceived as installations. However, as many of you
>> know, there are also "theatrical" versions of these films, using two
>> projectors instead of four, and foregoing other alterations to the
>> machines. (There's a bunch of these over at Filmmakers Coop.)
>>
>>
>>
>> The question: Would you say its correct that Sharits made these black box
>> versions to simply give the films an expanded (hoho) life, especially
>> during a time period when film projection was a rarer sight in galleries?
>> So not necessarily the intended version, but a different (and obviously
>> more accessible) way to showcase his ideas.
>>
>>
>>
>> I hear this might be a sensitive subject; but the way I see it is that he
>> did make the prints, and as long as it's presented appropriately no
>> problem. We'll be showing the two-projector version of Shutter Interface in
>> Austin next week (which i had the pleasure of seeing at Hallwalls some
>> years back), so just preparing.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> ekrem serdar
>>
>> austin, tx
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