[Frameworks] query for those who teach filmmaking

[Dan Anderson]

As a general rule of thumb, don't listen to anyone's opinion on Final Cut X
unless they've actually taken the time learn and understand it...  Same
advice should be used for most things in life ;-)



On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Chris Freeman <
christopherbriggsfreeman at gmail.com> wrote:

> I disagree with $4000.  A 21" iMac - what a school would likely be running
> Final Cut on - starts at $1299.  I assume there are bulk discounts for
> schools, but they likely already have the computers.
>
> I'm not a teacher, but I graduated four years ago and kept in touch with
> teachers at my old school.  They bit the bullet and upgraded to FCPX in
> 2012.  The teachers I've kept in touch with say it's easier to deal with
> and to teach it compared to old Final Cut.  For example, if you've got 20
> students using 20 different cameras, plus appropriated footage from the
> web, FCPX is more likely to be able to deal with all of those file types -
> so there's less MPEG Streamclip or Compressor converting and fewer fires to
> put out in class.  I've also heard the interface is more intuitive to
> students coming from iMovie or who have no video editing experience.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Aaron F. Ross <aaron at digitalartsguild.com
> > wrote:
>
>> My advice is to abandon FCP entirely. This is the rational response due
>> to the fact that Apple has essentially abandoned the educational and
>> professional markets. Nowadays for a decent OS X system you have to drop
>> nearly $4000, not including software. Take a look at their alleged
>> educational discounts, it's a joke. And the whole FCP X debacle caused many
>> users to switch to Premiere.
>>
>> Premiere used to suck, but that was ten years ago. Now it's totally
>> viable, and I would recommend going that route. It's not perfect, but it's
>> far better than FCP X. Plus, it's cross-platform, if you're into that sort
>> of thing. Please don't flame me because I alluded to Windows. ;)
>>
>> Aaron
>>
>>
>>
>> At 4/17/2014, you wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Frameworks,
>>>
>>> This isn't strictly an experimental film query, but I know many people
>>> who teach read this listerve. My department has delayed for years the
>>> decision about what to do about the transition away from teaching Final Cut
>>> Pro 7, and result has been increasingly chaotic and unsustainable (we've
>>> developed a messy do-whatever-you-want solution where individual faculty
>>> members choose which editing platform to teach, so some of our students
>>> only know FCPX, some are still using FCP7, a handful are learning Premiere
>>> on their own, and it's all a bit of a mess). I'd love to hear from as many
>>> instructors as possible about what your program has done about teaching
>>> editing post-FCP7, how you reached your decision, what your reasons were
>>> for teaching or not teaching FCPX, and how things have been working out.
>>>
>>> Please reply off-list if it seems more appropriate: this may or not be a
>>> public discussion topic of interest to others and is maybe a bit
>>> off-Frameworks-topic but it would be very helpful for me to compile some
>>> information about what others are doing.
>>>
>>> Thanks so much in advance for your help.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> ............................
>>>
>>> Irene Lusztig
>>> Assistant Professor, Film and Digital Media
>>> University of California, Santa Cruz
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>       Aaron F. Ross, artist and educator
>>       http://dr-yo.com
>>       http://digitalartsguild.com
>>
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