[Frameworks] query for those who teach filmmaking

[chris bravo]

I really don't get this idea that FCP X is "dumb"? What do people mean by
that? FCP X is obviously not dumb, are you referring to features? Clip
tagging with keywords, for example, is totally innovative and forward
thinking (it seems to me) and allows an editor to navigate through more
footage more quickly and organize it more intuitively and
idiosyncratically. (Intuitively I think means in a way that makes obvious
sense to the editor). Comparatively Premiere and AVID are way behind on
that front. Magnetic timeline the same, once you become comfortable with
the behaviors, its a much more stable timeline than the normal sequence
strucutre and allows you to edit sections of a long cut with much greater
confidence that you aren't fucking up the sequence by rippling tracks in
ways that aren't obvious. Timeline inspector the same. In one window you
can quickly get an overview of everything that appears in the timeline and
quickly naviagte to specific clips and monitor their states. (Oh, wait, you
don't know about that feature? Please continue expressing ill-informed
opinions, though.). XML exporting the same, FCP X exports far and away the
most detailed xml of any editing software and allows incredible flexibility
moving projects into audio and online software. And anyways do people
really think that somehow Apple is maliciously contributing to the
stupidification of media production rather than, say, ADOBE? that is an
insane position to take. Use whatever program you like, but this
witch-hunting is tiresome.


On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:53 PM, Beebe, Roger W. <beebe.77 at osu.edu> wrote:

> On the original topic of editing software, I’d throw my weight behind
> switching to Premiere.  At the University of Florida, I experimented for a
> semester with FCPX, and I found it buggy & dumbed down in ways that made it
> hard to do things that I’ve come to expect from my editing systems.  The
> magnetic timeline is one of the worst innovations I’ve ever encountered,
> and the commingling of audio and video tracks just makes everything look
> chaotic.  I’m sure I could’ve applied myself & gotten more familiar with
> the quirks of this system, but I preferred instead to switch over to
> Premiere, which had much more of the feel of FCP 7 and also had the
> advantage of integrating seamlessly with Premiere and After Effects.
>
> I’m also on the UFVA list and this discussion has come up frequently.
>  FCPX does have a few defenders, but it has produced much more
> dissatisfaction.
>
> I’ve just relocated to Ohio State, and we’ve started anew in Premiere.
>  The person who had been teaching the video classes here was teaching FCPX,
> but he seemed excited to switch over after the troubles he’s had with FCP.
>
> As for hardware, here at Ohio State, our labs all have iMacs.  The older
> ones really do slow down when you attempt to do anything slightly complex;
> even the newer ones are noticeably slower than the Mac Pros I left behind
> in Florida.  It is a great cost savings though, and if you only have to pay
> with your time, it just depends on how much you’ll hate having to go make a
> pot of tea while you render a sequence.  It’s certainly not impossible to
> do interesting, layered work on an iMac though.
>
> 2 cents,
> R.
>
> On Apr 17, 2014, at 9:42 PM, Aaron F. Ross <aaron at digitalartsguild.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I would steer clear of iMacs for video editing, they are underpowered.
> If you want to render HD video, it's going to be slow and painful on even
> the high end iMacs. The Mac Pro is very fast, but very expensive. It is
> only available with small solid state drives, so you have to buy additional
> external hard drives.
> >
> > Aaron
> >
> >
> >> I disagree with $4000.  A 21" iMac - what a school would likely be
> running Final Cut on - starts at $1299.  I assume there are bulk discounts
> for schools, but they likely already have the computers.
> >
> >
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