[Frameworks] query for those who teach filmmaking

[Richard Sylvarnes]

Apple is very direct in their intention to make FCPX more favorable  
to the consumer and IMovie user. They recognize that the professional  
market is too small for their bottom line. Therefore, yes, they are  
dumbing it down. Why, otherwise, is every professional editor I know  
either switching or have otherwise switched already or are still  
working with FCP7?
On Apr 17, 2014, at 10:51 PM, chris bravo wrote:

> I really don't get this idea that FCP X is "dumb"? What do people  
> mean by that? FCP X is obviously not dumb, are you referring to  
> features? Clip tagging with keywords, for example, is totally  
> innovative and forward thinking (it seems to me) and allows an  
> editor to navigate through more footage more quickly and organize  
> it more intuitively and idiosyncratically. (Intuitively I think  
> means in a way that makes obvious sense to the editor).  
> Comparatively Premiere and AVID are way behind on that front.  
> Magnetic timeline the same, once you become comfortable with the  
> behaviors, its a much more stable timeline than the normal sequence  
> strucutre and allows you to edit sections of a long cut with much  
> greater confidence that you aren't fucking up the sequence by  
> rippling tracks in ways that aren't obvious. Timeline inspector the  
> same. In one window you can quickly get an overview of everything  
> that appears in the timeline and quickly naviagte to specific clips  
> and monitor their states. (Oh, wait, you don't know about that  
> feature? Please continue expressing ill-informed opinions,  
> though.). XML exporting the same, FCP X exports far and away the  
> most detailed xml of any editing software and allows incredible  
> flexibility moving projects into audio and online software. And  
> anyways do people really think that somehow Apple is maliciously  
> contributing to the stupidification of media production rather  
> than, say, ADOBE? that is an insane position to take. Use whatever  
> program you like, but this witch-hunting is tiresome.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:53 PM, Beebe, Roger W. <beebe.77 at osu.edu>  
> wrote:
> On the original topic of editing software, I’d throw my weight  
> behind switching to Premiere.  At the University of Florida, I  
> experimented for a semester with FCPX, and I found it buggy &  
> dumbed down in ways that made it hard to do things that I’ve come  
> to expect from my editing systems.  The magnetic timeline is one of  
> the worst innovations I’ve ever encountered, and the commingling of  
> audio and video tracks just makes everything look chaotic.  I’m  
> sure I could’ve applied myself & gotten more familiar with the  
> quirks of this system, but I preferred instead to switch over to  
> Premiere, which had much more of the feel of FCP 7 and also had the  
> advantage of integrating seamlessly with Premiere and After Effects.
>
> I’m also on the UFVA list and this discussion has come up  
> frequently.  FCPX does have a few defenders, but it has produced  
> much more dissatisfaction.
>
> I’ve just relocated to Ohio State, and we’ve started anew in  
> Premiere.  The person who had been teaching the video classes here  
> was teaching FCPX, but he seemed excited to switch over after the  
> troubles he’s had with FCP.
>
> As for hardware, here at Ohio State, our labs all have iMacs.  The  
> older ones really do slow down when you attempt to do anything  
> slightly complex; even the newer ones are noticeably slower than  
> the Mac Pros I left behind in Florida.  It is a great cost savings  
> though, and if you only have to pay with your time, it just depends  
> on how much you’ll hate having to go make a pot of tea while you  
> render a sequence.  It’s certainly not impossible to do  
> interesting, layered work on an iMac though.
>
> 2 cents,
> R.
>
> On Apr 17, 2014, at 9:42 PM, Aaron F. Ross  
> <aaron at digitalartsguild.com> wrote:
>
> > I would steer clear of iMacs for video editing, they are  
> underpowered. If you want to render HD video, it's going to be slow  
> and painful on even the high end iMacs. The Mac Pro is very fast,  
> but very expensive. It is only available with small solid state  
> drives, so you have to buy additional external hard drives.
> >
> > Aaron
> >
> >
> >> I disagree with $4000.  A 21" iMac - what a school would likely  
> be running Final Cut on - starts at $1299.  I assume there are  
> bulk discounts for schools, but they likely already have the  
> computers.
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
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> >      Aaron F. Ross, artist and educator
> >      http://dr-yo.com
> >      http://digitalartsguild.com
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