[Frameworks] query for those who teach filmmaking

[lindsay mcintyre]

for what it's worth, FAVA (a film and video coop based in Edmonton,
Alberta) recently switched over all digital editing systems to
premiere with external drives ready and loaded with FCP7 and FCP X
should any user prefer or require what those programs offer.  i think
even AVID is still available.  with so many users and so many
different ideas about what works and what is best, it made sense for
us to have them all still available, however all the students who go
through the video courses now all learn premiere exclusively and it
has been working well.

it should be noted, however, that all the students who go through the
film courses still learn how to edit by cutting on a steenbeck and
they each make a 16mm film complete with negative conform and optical
tracks with that work flow. in terms of teaching those basic concepts,
especially to begin with, i would put my vote behind pip's S8 model
any day of the week.


lindsay mcintyre


On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 11:05 AM, John Warren
<johnwarren at alum.calarts.edu> wrote:
> Thanks for the query, Irene. I am also interested to see what is happening
> at other institutions. I teach at two schools in Nashville that were both
> using FCP7 a couple of years ago, and they have adopted two different
> solutions. At the Watkins College of Art, Design & Film, they have largely
> migrated to Avid, but all of the school's computers also have FCPX, so that
> gets used by students and sometimes taught as well.
>
> I also teach at Vanderbilt University in the Art department (where i teach
> experimental video) and in the Cinema & Media Arts program (where i teach an
> intro-level 16mm course), and both departments have switched from FCP7 to
> Adobe Premiere. It's ideal for my art class, where we also do some
> compositing work in After Effects. The interface of Premiere should be
> familiar to anyone who has worked with FCP7. And i love that you do not need
> to transcode footage.
>
> I only wish i could implement Pip's super 8 filmmaking model at either
> school.
>
> peace, jw
>
> ----------------------------------------------
> John Warren
> 213.458.1650
> www.johnwarrenfilms.com
>
> On Apr 18, 2014, at 7:01 AM, frameworks-request at jonasmekasfilms.com wrote:
>
> Dear Frameworks,
>
> This isn't strictly an experimental film query, but I know many people who
> teach read this listerve. My department has delayed for years the decision
> about what to do about the transition away from teaching Final Cut Pro 7,
> and result has been increasingly chaotic and unsustainable (we've developed
> a messy do-whatever-you-want solution where individual faculty members
> choose which editing platform to teach, so some of our students only know
> FCPX, some are still using FCP7, a handful are learning Premiere on their
> own, and it's all a bit of a mess). I'd love to hear from as many
> instructors as possible about what your program has done about teaching
> editing post-FCP7, how you reached your decision, what your reasons were for
> teaching or not teaching FCPX, and how things have been working out.
>
> Please reply off-list if it seems more appropriate: this may or not be a
> public discussion topic of interest to others and is maybe a bit
> off-Frameworks-topic but it would be very helpful for me to compile some
> information about what others are doing.
>
> Thanks so much in advance for your help.
>
> Best,
>
> ............................
>
> Irene Lusztig
> Assistant Professor, Film and Digital Media
> University of California, Santa Cruz
>
>
>
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