[Frameworks] Optical sound – Structural film

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I’m really interested on that topic also, but I’m sure that you know more films than me. Lately I found this, but you probably know all these films…

http://otherfilm.org/optical-sound/ <http://otherfilm.org/optical-sound/>

A couple of weeks ago I spend one afternoon looking for optical sound films at vimeo and I found several interesting pieces, but most of them are from the 80s, 90s or even more recent.

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> De: Albert Alcoz <albertalcoz7 at yahoo.es <mailto:albertalcoz7 at yahoo.es>>
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> Responder a: Albert Alcoz <albertalcoz7 at yahoo.es <mailto:albertalcoz7 at yahoo.es>>
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> Hello,
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> Does anybody know structural or structural-materialist or minimal/abstract films from the sixties or seventies where the sound of the film comes directly from the graphic treatment on the optical sound area of the celluloid?
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> Kurt Kren drew a line with ink in his film Trees of Autumn (1960) and Guy Sherwin shot pictures on the variable area of the soundtrack. Those films were collected on the Optical Sound Films (1971-2007) DVD.
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> I thought the soundtrack of Roh Film (1968) by Birgit & Wilhelm Hein was done directly from the collage materials attached on the surface of the emulsion but it is not. It was done afterwards, as an autonomous noise piece by Christian Michelis. 
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> I'm thinking about films like Dynamo Dresden (1971) by Lis Rhodes or Soundtrack (1969) by Barry Spinello, but they are more abstract animation pieces following the visual music tradition than the structural or systemic patterns.
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> Any suggestion will be appreciated.
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> Thank you very much,
> 
> Albert Alcoz
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> De: Pip Chodorov <frameworks at re-voir.com <mailto:frameworks at re-voir.com>>
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> Fecha: 11 de febrero de 2015, 11:31:45 CET
> Asunto: Re: [Frameworks] Optical sound - Structural film
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> There's "Ten Drawings" by Steve Farrer (1976)
> http://lightcone.org/fr/film-477-10-drawings <http://lightcone.org/fr/film-477-10-drawings>
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> At 8:46 +0000 11/02/15, Albert Alcoz wrote:
>> Does anybody know structural or structural-materialist or minimal/abstract films from the sixties or seventies where the sound of the film comes directly from the graphic treatment on the optical sound area of the celluloid?
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> De: Peter Mudie <peter.mudie at uwa.edu.au <mailto:peter.mudie at uwa.edu.au>>
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> Rarely discussed, but a fantastic film – one of the best from the LFMC.
> Peter
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> From: Pip Chodorov <frameworks at re-voir.com <mailto:frameworks at re-voir.com>>
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> Date: Wednesday, 11 February 2015 6:31 pm
> To: Albert Alcoz <albertalcoz7 at yahoo.es <mailto:albertalcoz7 at yahoo.es>>, Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com <mailto:frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>>
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> There's "Ten Drawings" by Steve Farrer (1976)
> http://lightcone.org/fr/film-477-10-drawings <http://lightcone.org/fr/film-477-10-drawings>
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> At 8:46 +0000 11/02/15, Albert Alcoz wrote:
>> Does anybody know structural or structural-materialist or minimal/abstract films from the sixties or seventies where the sound of the film comes directly from the graphic treatment on the optical sound area of the celluloid?
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