[Frameworks] Asking for a friend

Cecilia Dougherty cecilia.dougherty at gmail.com
Sat Nov 25 02:37:04 UTC 2017


Thank you!

On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 4:34 PM Fred Camper <f at fredcamper.com> wrote:

> Amazing, but unfortunately not that big of a surprise. It supports my
> point that no group should feel holier than thou, or immune from all the
> badness. (Take, for example, priests, oh, wait, let's not...)
>
> I have to admit I do not understand the psychology at work here -- what
> pleasure could any male get out of such behavior? I will say with virtual
> certainty that nothing that you did "prompted" him. I guess we humans are
> all different, and not always in good ways.
>
> Thanks for speaking up.
> Fred Camper
> Chicago
>
>
> On 11/24/2017 11:17 AM, Kate Ewald wrote:
>
> I will give an anecdote about this very listserv: I was very severely
> sexually harassed as a college student posting about a film screening in
> 2008.  It was for a well-known experimental filmmaker.  The response to my
> post involved "oh, you don't know what you're talking about and I bet you
> can shut up and stick a dick in your mouth."  This persisted for several
> posts (becoming increasingly graphic), some just to me, some to the whole
> list - I'm not sure what prompted such a reaction from this stranger.
> Scott was kind enough to delete these posts from the archives out of
> respect and block this person from Frameworks, but as a young person first
> entering the experimental film community (it was my first post on
> Frameworks), I was shaken.  Some people policed it and stood up for me
> then, but Scott made it go away very quickly.  So yes, this happens in our
> community, and yes, this happens on this listserv.  I wish it weren't the
> case.
>
>
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