[Frameworks] Films about the clock

[Tyler Maxin]

Nam June Paik's TV Clock <https://americanart.si.edu/artwork/tv-clock-80132>
comes to mind. Or Gordon Matta-Clark's Harold Lloyd-ian Clockshower
<https://vimeo.com/206427388>.
Regarding the lack of more contemporary work, maybe there are more recent
things in digital/Internet art? I'm not particularly knowledgable, but
something like Thomson & Craighead's Flipped Clock
<https://bampfa.org/program/thomson-craighead-flipped-clock> might be of
interest.

Oh yeah, has anyone suggested Robert Nelson's Bleu Shut?

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 5:31 PM Beebe, Roger W. <beebe.77 at osu.edu> wrote:

> It’d be great if everyone read the original post and what others post in
> the thread, wouldn’t it?  If one more person suggests Bleu Shut...!
>
> But to try to inject a little substance here, I think it’s telling that
> most of the examples that we’ve collectively come up with are from an
> earlier era (many in the heyday of Structural Film).  Marclay’s magnum opus
> notwithstanding, it does seem like experimental film now isn’t especially
> invested in that kind of rigid formal investigation of time (&c.) in the
> way it once was…
>
> Quickly,
> Roger
>
> On Oct 29, 2018, at 5:21 PM, Caroline Gil <gilcaroline10 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hola Albert,
>
> You should also consider Christian Marclay's *The Clock*, now up at the
> Tate Modern.
>
> https://youtu.be/irtVNTFr4f4
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> https://www.tate.org.uk/art/lists/five-ways-christian-marclays-clock-does-more-just-tell-time
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> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:52 PM Andy Ditzler <andy at andyditzler.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Consider also Guy Sherwin's *At the Academy *and * Metronome, *both of
>> which feature timekeeping devices related to the clock.
>>
>> Andy Ditzler
>> Founder and curator, Film Love: www.filmlove.org
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>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:20 PM Albert Alcoz <albertalcoz at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello again,
>>>
>>> Thank you all for the answers. The winner is *Bleu Shut* (1971) by
>>> Robert Nelson, with four different votes!
>>>
>>> The suggestions will be really useful although i see it is rather
>>> difficult to mention contemporary works. I have found some others created
>>> around the seventies, like those filmed by Guy Sherwin: *Candle & Clock
>>> (London 1977)* and *Clock & Train (Leaving Birmingham 1978). *
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Albert
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 10:17 AM Daniel A. Swarthnas <swarthnas at mail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Albert!
>>>>
>>>> I guess you have been thinking about Bleu Shut (1971) by Robert Nelson.
>>>> In "classic" narrative cinema you will find many films of course,
>>>> like Smultronstället/Wild Strawbarries (1957) by Ingmar Bergman and Victor
>>>> Sjöströms Körkarlen(1921)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Daniel A. Swarthnas
>>>> Cinema Parenthèse
>>>> swarthnas at mail.com
>>>> +46(0)705778603
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 27, 2018 at 1:07 PM
>>>> *From:* "Albert Alcoz" <albertalcoz at gmail.com>
>>>> *To:* "Experimental Film Discussion List" <
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>>>> *Subject:* [Frameworks] Films about the clock
>>>>
>>>> Hello frameworkers,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I’m trying to write a short article in spanish about different notions
>>>> of time concerning contemporary experimental film and video. Since the
>>>> concept of “time related to cinema” is almost impossible to delimit I have
>>>> decided to concentrate just about the clock.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, i’m searching films and videos where the clock is an important
>>>> object/issue for the development of the piece. By now I have just found
>>>> appropiation works as *60 Seconds* (2002) by Christoph Girardet and *The
>>>> Clock* (2012) by Christian Marclay but i’m sure there are dozens.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There’s a brilliant film by Chris Gallagher named *Time Being* (2009)
>>>> that could also be useful to theorize some ideas but I need some more
>>>> titles.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Albert
>>>>
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