[Frameworks] tips for shooting on print stock?

Thu Mar 21 20:52:59 UTC 2019

The removing the remjet (the backing you speak of) has been greatly
exaggerated in terms of how hard it is. I use a warm baking soda bath and a
quick wipe down with a damp microfiber cloth.  Not a speck remains.
Theres some great tutorials on YouTube to employ a variety of removal
methods, if anyone is interested.

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019, 9:07 AM trevor adams <trevora26 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Mr. Antos is correct, sir.  It's less than half the going rate of
> reversal.  Also, this particular stock doesn't have the backing which makes
> hand-processing arduous (as it's been explained to me).  And ignorance is
> about the most cultivated quality in my work!
> Trevor Adams
> sinemodafatestare.com
>
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> Julian Antos <julian at chicagofilmsociety.org>
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>
> I think the appeal is that it’s much cheaper!
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:11 PM Francisco Torres <fjtorrespr at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> pardon my ignorance but I have never understood the use of print stock
> as camera original. Would using reversal accomplish similar results?
>
> 2019-03-20 12:20 GMT-04:00, MONO NO AWARE <mononoawarefilm at gmail.com>:
> > https://vimeo.com/290301242
> >
> > Results from our workshop.   A few water marks, but for their first time
> in
> > the lab processing, to be cross processing and have these results its
> > pretty good, could have used a darker orange filter, but it was overcast
> > and we couldn't forfeit the light.
> >
> >
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> > <
> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/11/nyregion/a-brooklyn-film-school-where-the-digital-revolution-didnt-happen.html
> >,
> > ViceTV
> > <
> https://video.vice.com/en_us/video/the-brooklyn-film-organization-bringing-analog-back-to-the-masses/584f0f243d8095724ccdaf1e
> >,
> > The Brooklyn Rail
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> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 12:13 PM Anna Kipervaser
> > <anna.kipervaser at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I am often shooting on 3383; I use an 85 filter (orange to compensate
> for
> >> lack of orange base in the stock and to get near true color) and rate
> >> 3383
> >> at 3. Then I process in Tetenal E6 in a lomo reel/tank. Recipe below.
> >>
> >> FD: 100 degrees F, 2:45min
> >> H2O: 5min, warm, not warmer than 100 degrees F
> >> CD: 100 degrees F, 6min
> >> H2O: 5min, warm, not warmer than 100 degrees F
> >> BLIX: 100 degrees F, 6min
> >> H2O: 10min, cool.
> >> Stabilizer out of tank: 30sec
> >> Shake reel
> >> Hang film to dry
> >>
> >> Also, Mono No Aware has had successful results with C41.
> >>
> >> Always,
> >>  Anna
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ---
> >> anna kipervaser
> >> 847.571.6943
> >>
> >> annakipervaser.com
> >> yellowfilmlab.com
> >> onlookfilms.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>>    4. Re: tips for shooting on print stock? (Nicole Baker)
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> >>> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 16:20:12 +0000
> >>> Subject: [Frameworks] tips for shooting on print stock?
> >>> Hiya one'n all,
> >>>
> >>> I'm seeking any advice/ tips for shooting on 3383 color vision print
> >>> stock, with a bolex.  Everybody I've spoken to says use an ASA of 5,
> I'm
> >>> not sure if i should even take light readings?  Anything would be
> >>> helpful...
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Trevor Adams
> >>>
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> >>> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 14:25:49 -0400
> >>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] tips for shooting on print stock?
> >>> 5 seems optimistic.  Shoot a test.
> >>> --scott
> >>>
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> >>> From: Nicole Baker <nebaker at pnca.edu>
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> >>> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 15:12:57 -0700
> >>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] tips for shooting on print stock?
> >>> I haven't tried print stock, but have played with film I made myself
> >>> (handmade emulsion applied to clear leader) and that is also rated at a
> >>> 5
> >>> (if that).  I would still absolutely take light readings, especially if
> >>> you're pointing at the light source, you might be surprised how much
> >>> light
> >>> it throws off.  Maybe try spot metering instead of ambient.  I find
> that
> >>> helps me "see" the scene the way the film might.
> >>> Post your results!  I'd love to see them.
> >>>
> >>> Nicole Elaine Baker
> >>> MFA in Visual Studies, 2019
> >>> Pacific Northwest College of Art
> >>> Hallie Ford School of Graduate Studies
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 9:20 AM trevor adams <trevora26 at hotmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hiya one'n all,
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm seeking any advice/ tips for shooting on 3383 color vision print
> >>>> stock, with a bolex.  Everybody I've spoken to says use an ASA of 5,
> >>>> I'm
> >>>> not sure if i should even take light readings?  Anything would be
> >>>> helpful...
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Trevor Adams
> >>>>
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