[Frameworks] tips for shooting on print stock?

Fri Mar 22 23:47:31 UTC 2019

Sorry to co-opt this thread, but Nicole at what stage do you remove the
remjet? As a last step? Or pre-bath? Any recs for baking-soda to water
ratio? Thanks!

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 3:53 PM Nicole Baker <nebaker at pnca.edu> wrote:

> The removing the remjet (the backing you speak of) has been greatly
> exaggerated in terms of how hard it is. I use a warm baking soda bath and a
> quick wipe down with a damp microfiber cloth.  Not a speck remains.
> Theres some great tutorials on YouTube to employ a variety of removal
> methods, if anyone is interested.
>
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2019, 9:07 AM trevor adams <trevora26 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Mr. Antos is correct, sir.  It's less than half the going rate of
>> reversal.  Also, this particular stock doesn't have the backing which makes
>> hand-processing arduous (as it's been explained to me).  And ignorance is
>> about the most cultivated quality in my work!
>> Trevor Adams
>> sinemodafatestare.com
>>
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>>
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>> *From:* FrameWorks <frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com> on behalf of
>> Julian Antos <julian at chicagofilmsociety.org>
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>> *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] tips for shooting on print stock?
>>
>> I think the appeal is that it’s much cheaper!
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:11 PM Francisco Torres <fjtorrespr at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> pardon my ignorance but I have never understood the use of print stock
>> as camera original. Would using reversal accomplish similar results?
>>
>> 2019-03-20 12:20 GMT-04:00, MONO NO AWARE <mononoawarefilm at gmail.com>:
>> > https://vimeo.com/290301242
>> >
>> > Results from our workshop.   A few water marks, but for their first
>> time in
>> > the lab processing, to be cross processing and have these results its
>> > pretty good, could have used a darker orange filter, but it was overcast
>> > and we couldn't forfeit the light.
>> >
>> >
>> > ◅
>> > *MONO NO AWARE*
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>> >
>> > e: mononoawarefilm.com c: +1 2674561143 <%2B1%20267%20456-1143> in:gram
>> > <https://www.instagram.com/mononoawarefilm/>
>> > <%2B1%20267%20456-1143>
>> > press: New York Times
>> > <
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/11/nyregion/a-brooklyn-film-school-where-the-digital-revolution-didnt-happen.html
>> >,
>> > ViceTV
>> > <
>> https://video.vice.com/en_us/video/the-brooklyn-film-organization-bringing-analog-back-to-the-masses/584f0f243d8095724ccdaf1e
>> >,
>> > The Brooklyn Rail
>> > <https://brooklynrail.org/2018/11/film/Mixed-Use-MONO-NO-AWARE>
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 12:13 PM Anna Kipervaser
>> > <anna.kipervaser at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I am often shooting on 3383; I use an 85 filter (orange to compensate
>> for
>> >> lack of orange base in the stock and to get near true color) and rate
>> >> 3383
>> >> at 3. Then I process in Tetenal E6 in a lomo reel/tank. Recipe below.
>> >>
>> >> FD: 100 degrees F, 2:45min
>> >> H2O: 5min, warm, not warmer than 100 degrees F
>> >> CD: 100 degrees F, 6min
>> >> H2O: 5min, warm, not warmer than 100 degrees F
>> >> BLIX: 100 degrees F, 6min
>> >> H2O: 10min, cool.
>> >> Stabilizer out of tank: 30sec
>> >> Shake reel
>> >> Hang film to dry
>> >>
>> >> Also, Mono No Aware has had successful results with C41.
>> >>
>> >> Always,
>> >>  Anna
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ---
>> >> anna kipervaser
>> >> 847.571.6943
>> >>
>> >> annakipervaser.com
>> >> yellowfilmlab.com
>> >> onlookfilms.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >>> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 16:20:12 +0000
>> >>> Subject: [Frameworks] tips for shooting on print stock?
>> >>> Hiya one'n all,
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm seeking any advice/ tips for shooting on 3383 color vision print
>> >>> stock, with a bolex.  Everybody I've spoken to says use an ASA of 5,
>> I'm
>> >>> not sure if i should even take light readings?  Anything would be
>> >>> helpful...
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Trevor Adams
>> >>>
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>> >>> Cc:
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>> >>> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 14:25:49 -0400
>> >>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] tips for shooting on print stock?
>> >>> 5 seems optimistic.  Shoot a test.
>> >>> --scott
>> >>>
>> >>>
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>> >>> From: Nicole Baker <nebaker at pnca.edu>
>> >>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
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>> >>> Cc:
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>> >>> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 15:12:57 -0700
>> >>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] tips for shooting on print stock?
>> >>> I haven't tried print stock, but have played with film I made myself
>> >>> (handmade emulsion applied to clear leader) and that is also rated at
>> a
>> >>> 5
>> >>> (if that).  I would still absolutely take light readings, especially
>> if
>> >>> you're pointing at the light source, you might be surprised how much
>> >>> light
>> >>> it throws off.  Maybe try spot metering instead of ambient.  I find
>> that
>> >>> helps me "see" the scene the way the film might.
>> >>> Post your results!  I'd love to see them.
>> >>>
>> >>> Nicole Elaine Baker
>> >>> MFA in Visual Studies, 2019
>> >>> Pacific Northwest College of Art
>> >>> Hallie Ford School of Graduate Studies
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>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 9:20 AM trevor adams <trevora26 at hotmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hiya one'n all,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm seeking any advice/ tips for shooting on 3383 color vision print
>> >>>> stock, with a bolex.  Everybody I've spoken to says use an ASA of 5,
>> >>>> I'm
>> >>>> not sure if i should even take light readings?  Anything would be
>> >>>> helpful...
>> >>>> Thanks,
>> >>>> Trevor Adams
>> >>>>
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