[Frameworks] Mac OS Catalina

robert at ontosmedia.com robert at ontosmedia.com
Fri Jan 10 19:13:14 UTC 2020


Thank you, Adam, for putting this so clearly!  It explains the periodic 
warnings I get about programs I run being incompatible with future OS 
releases.

I'm sorry to hear Dominic and others are suffering because of Apple's 
callous imposition.

--RS

On 2020-01-10 11:35, Adam Hyman wrote:
> Yes, they are tech companies who are trying to sell things under the
> guise that it helps your creativity.  They are criminal in the way
> that all wealthy people and companies under capitalism are criminal.
> Also remember, that Apple is trying to get everyone to move things to
> the Cloud, and then they can charge you for using their cloud.
> 
> First, to help others before they run into this, there are several
> general rules before updating an Operating System.
> 1. Always backup everything to an external hard drive
> 2. Always backup everything to a second external hard drive
> And ideally,
> 3. If on a Mac, use Time Machine regularly so you have a third backup.
>  Disconnect it before upgrading the OS (reconnect it only when the new
> OS is working to your liking)
> 4. In general, always have all your media on at least two separate
> hard drives always, because all hard drives die at some point.  Never
> have your media only on your computer.
> 
> Then
> If your system is working for you, DON'T update the OS, no matter how
> many times they encourage you to.  (I'm still running El Capitan)
> And if you think you want to update the OS, first look around online
> to see what issues & problems people have had when changing to that
> OS.
> PEOPLE HAVE HAD A LOT OF ISSUES WITH CATALINA.  FOR ONE THING, IT
> DOESN’T LET YOU PLAY MEDIA IN MANY OLDER CODECS.
> 
> THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE.  AGAIN, THE CATALINA UPDATE HAS MADE IT
> NOT POSSIBLE TO SEE MEDIA FILES WITH OLDER CODECS.  READ THIS PAGE AT
> LENGTH:
> 
> HTTPS://LARRYJORDAN.COM/BLOG/IMPORTANT-DONT-LOSE-ACCESS-TO-OLDER-MEDIA/
> 
> "NOTE: TO BE VERY CLEAR, APPLE CONFIRMED THAT “MACOS MOJAVE —
> INCLUDING ALL DOT RELEASES OF THIS OPERATING SYSTEM — WILL BE
> THE LAST MAJOR VERSION OF MACOS TO SUPPORT THE LEGACY 32-BIT CODECS
> IDENTIFIED IN THIS ARTICLE.”
> "You may have seen the ominous warning in Final Cut about legacy
> media. Apple released an update to their KnowledgeBase website which
> includes MUCH more detail on what codecs are affected and which ones
> are not."
> 
> Here's the link: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT209000
> For helping with this issue, have you spent time in Apple Forums
> asking this question, and checking other google searches asking this
> question?  You are probably not the first person to have this issue.
> Are the files actually gone (have you searched your hard drive, in
> your library, etc), or are you not able to access them through the
> pathway or program that you had been using?
> 
> Here are some discussions with different answers:
> First, from the Larry Jordan thread above:
> "I recently migrated to Catalina, and am one of those who didn't have
> my eye on this upcoming problem. Once in the 64-bit Catalina world, I
> can no longer open older codec MOV files, even in Compressor, and
> therefore am having trouble figuring out how to convert them. Do you
> have any suggestions for how to address this now, without having to
> revert my entire OS to 32-bit or create a whole additional partition
> on the machine? Thanks!"
> "Laurence:  Smile… I've been expecting your email since I first
> started writing about how Catalina is making older media inaccessible
> a year ago.  However, there's hope! Check out the latest version of
> Kyno (1.7) from LessPain Software. It can convert legacy media even
> after you've updated to Catalina. (https://lesspain.software/kyno/) "
> -- Larry
> "Just when I think I understand Catalina I read a tweet or article
> that confuses me…  So there's no longer a Macintosh HD > Library >
> QuickTime folder with .components, correct? I don't have access to a
> machine with Catalina to look."
> "That folder and the components it contains is still there. What isn't
> there is support for older 32-bit codecs."
> 
> Apparently Premiere, and possibly Avid, can still open the older
> media, maybe.
> 
> These are generally dealing with documents not media files:
> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250742021
> https://www.doyourdata.com/mac-data-recovery/recover-lost-files-after-upgrade-to-macos-catalina.html
> https://iboysoft.com/mac-data-recovery/recover-lost-data-after-macos-update.html
> https://www.stellarinfo.com/article/recover-files-after-mac-catalina-upgrade.php
> 
> Some things that come up are in the first discussion thread above are:
> 
> "I just saw a new folder on my desktop titled Relocated Items
> evidently created by the upgrade containing the missing data. The
> 'what are relocated item' document indicates missing files/folders are
> in a location incompatible with macOS security settings. Am I to
> understand that I can no longer create a folder on my HD?"
> "No, you can't. In Catalina, the system is a separate, read-only
> volume. You can't create folders on the top level of the drive."
> "Thanks Luis, for a moment I thought I was really screwed. Can I
> reasonably assume that I can move the contents of the relocated item
> folder to any place I want?"
> "Yes, you can move them and place them in any convenient place."
> 
> Do you see a folder like that?  If so, move it first to an external
> drive or two, then to a useful place on your computer.  But you may
> wish to uninstall Catalina and reinstall Mojave, which is probably
> difficult.
> 
> Another question leads to this:
> "Try restarting in Safe Mode. Can you open the documents in Safe Mode?
> If you can open in Safe Mode, Restart normally again. See if it got
> fixed. If not, please run the diagnostic tool Etrecheck and post its
> full report here.
> If you can't open the documents even in Safe Mode, there is either a
> problem with the drive or with permissions.
> Select the Documents folder, press Command-I and post a screenshot of
> the permissions part at the bottom of the window."
> 
> Best of luck!
> 
> Adam
> 
> On 1/10/20, 6:58 AM, "FrameWorks on behalf of Dominic Angerame"
> <frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com on behalf of
> dominic.angerame at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Ty, for some reason Premier 2020 opened one file…we have no
>> control over what these software folks do to us. It is almost
>> criminal if not unethical and no regard for medium itself and those
>> that use it for creativity.
>> 
>> d
>> 
>> On Jan 10, 2020, at 6:56 AM, Joan Hawkins <jchawkin at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> what a drag!  I'm sorry I can't help but wanted to send sympathy.
>> Joan
>> 
>> On Jan 10, 2020, at 7:32 AM, Dominic Angerame
>> <dominic.angerame at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi I lost all my media and quick time files with this upgrade to
>> Catalina. Anyone have any idea how I can retrieve them.
>> 
>> Thanks much
>> 
>> Dominic
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