[Frameworks] American avant-garde filmmakers and exploitation

Thu Nov 11 19:23:52 UTC 2021

Thank you Guy and Albert! I hadn't heard about Ono in "Satan's Bed" --I'm
looking at Hawkins right now! Albert, yes this topic is pretty close to the
other one that you mention and I am working on that too. Glad to hear that
all of this makes sense! Thanks, again. -JA

On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 7:19 AM Albert Alcoz <albertalcoz at gmail.com> wrote:

> The other day I was going to write the name of Jordan Belson and the film
> *Demon Seed* but then I erased it.
>
> Looks like it is another topic: avant-garde filmmakers working for the big
> budget film industry.
>
> Larry Cuba and *Star Wars* would also be on that other list.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 12:01 PM scratch utopia <scratch.utopia at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Jordan Belson created effects for Donald Cammell's *Demon Seed *(1977)
>> Not exactly low budget but could certainly be described as exploitation.
>>
>> Yoko Ono appeared in Michael Findlay's *Satan's Bed *(1965)
>>
>> For more info on that unlikely collaboration see Joan Hawkins' *Cutting
>> Edge: Art Horror and the Horrific Avant-garde, *University of Minnesota
>> Press.
>>
>> Sounds like an interesting project/ line of inquiry.
>>
>> Guy
>>
>>
>>
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>>> Hi Matt,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm interested in talking to you about this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You also might be interested in looking into Robert Schaller's
>>> Wilderness Filmmaking Trip in the Rockies - because of his methods in the
>>> field.
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> Dear Folks,
>>>
>>> I'm looking for discussion resources around the sustainability of
>>> filming, cutting, and projecting on film. Preferably from filmmakers
>>> themselves who have a commitment to environemtental stewardship in their
>>> own lives—or whose work engages directly the more than human world.
>>>
>>> Writings, interviews, films that focus on other mediums could be
>>> helpful. The personal concerns I'm thinking of would be wrestled with by
>>> artists working in most mediums.
>>>
>>> So far, I have some eco-critical texts from an art history vantage
>>> point, looking primarily at extraction colonialism. Hoping for more from
>>> tje artists themselves.
>>>
>>> thank you always,
>>> Matt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> I second that opinion on Robert's methods.
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>>> On 9 de noviembre de 2021 9:34 a. m., William Basquin <
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>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Matt,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm interested in talking to you about this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You also might be interested in looking into Robert Schaller's
>>> Wilderness Filmmaking Trip in the Rockies - because of his methods in the
>>> field.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Bill Basquin
>>>
>>> www.BillBasquin.info
>>>
>>>
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>>> Dear Folks,
>>>
>>> I'm looking for discussion resources around the sustainability of
>>> filming, cutting, and projecting on film. Preferably from filmmakers
>>> themselves who have a commitment to environemtental stewardship in their
>>> own lives—or whose work engages directly the more than human world.
>>>
>>> Writings, interviews, films that focus on other mediums could be
>>> helpful. The personal concerns I'm thinking of would be wrestled with by
>>> artists working in most mediums.
>>>
>>> So far, I have some eco-critical texts from an art history vantage
>>> point, looking primarily at extraction colonialism. Hoping for more from
>>> tje artists themselves.
>>>
>>> thank you always,
>>> Matt
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] American avant-garde filmmakers and
>>> exploitation
>>> OK, wow, this is great! Thank you for your replies--this is quite a
>>> list. Does anyone know if this history has been written about? I thought of
>>> David E. James and Paul Arthur and I looked at the chapter, "Narrating Los
>>> Angeles: Art Films and Independent Features," in James' book on minor
>>> cinemas in LA. He accounts, indirectly, for the point that David Sherman
>>> has made here by discussing exploitation films that exploited the
>>> counterculture and appropriated some styles, concepts, and techniques found
>>> in the New American Cinema and European art cinema. The chapter is useful
>>> for my research but I am looking for other articles that might address the
>>> history of this overlap more explicitly. If you think of something, I am
>>> all ears. Thank you, again, I am most appreciative. -JA
>>>
>>> List of American Avant-Garde filmmakers who also worked on low-budget, B
>>> and exploitation feature films in the 1960s and 70s:
>>>
>>> *Pat O'Neil *
>>>
>>> *Curtis Harrington*
>>>
>>> *Nathaniel Dorsky*
>>>
>>> *Morgan Fisher*
>>>
>>> *Jerry Abrams*
>>>
>>> *Peggy Ahwesh*
>>>
>>> *Jerome Hiler*
>>>
>>> *Betzy Bromberg*
>>>
>>> *Hy Hirsh*
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 10:23 PM Marc Couroux <couroux at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes! Fisher mentions Messiah of Evil, and shows a frame of it in
>>>> Standard Gauge.
>>>> M
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 5:01 PM Steve Polta <steve.polta at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Off the top of my head:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Nathaniel Dorsky: *Revenge of the Cheerleaders* (1976)—he was
>>>>> either director, co-writer, cinematographer or some combination, depending
>>>>> on whom you ask.
>>>>> 2) I've heard that Morgan Fisher was editor on *Messiah of Evil* (1973)
>>>>> although he is not credited (he appears as an actor as well).
>>>>> 3) Bay Area '60s filmmaker (who also did light shows) Jerry Abrams
>>>>> directed an exploitation doc on Bay Area porn culture of the '70s; I can't
>>>>> recall the title.
>>>>> 4) Peggy Ahwesh worked on-set on some George Romero films but I don't
>>>>> know the titles.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are surely lots more…
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 1:19 PM jared ashburn <ashburn.jared at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone know of any American avant-garde filmmakers who also
>>>>>> worked on low-budget features, B or exploitation films in the late 60s and
>>>>>> 70s? This could be in any area of production or post-production...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>> Jared
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>>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] American avant-garde filmmakers and
>>> exploitation
>>> One more: Carl Linder
>>>
>>>
>>> 9 nov. 2021 kl. 18:31 skrev jared ashburn <ashburn.jared at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> OK, wow, this is great! Thank you for your replies--this is quite a
>>> list. Does anyone know if this history has been written about? I thought of
>>> David E. James and Paul Arthur and I looked at the chapter, "Narrating Los
>>> Angeles: Art Films and Independent Features," in James' book on minor
>>> cinemas in LA. He accounts, indirectly, for the point that David Sherman
>>> has made here by discussing exploitation films that exploited the
>>> counterculture and appropriated some styles, concepts, and techniques found
>>> in the New American Cinema and European art cinema. The chapter is useful
>>> for my research but I am looking for other articles that might address the
>>> history of this overlap more explicitly. If you think of something, I am
>>> all ears. Thank you, again, I am most appreciative. -JA
>>>
>>> List of American Avant-Garde filmmakers who also worked on low-budget, B
>>> and exploitation feature films in the 1960s and 70s:
>>>
>>> *Pat O'Neil *
>>>
>>> *Curtis Harrington*
>>>
>>> *Nathaniel Dorsky*
>>>
>>> *Morgan Fisher*
>>>
>>> *Jerry Abrams*
>>>
>>> *Peggy Ahwesh*
>>>
>>> *Jerome Hiler*
>>>
>>> *Betzy Bromberg*
>>>
>>> *Hy Hirsh*
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 10:23 PM Marc Couroux <couroux at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes! Fisher mentions Messiah of Evil, and shows a frame of it in
>>>> Standard Gauge.
>>>> M
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 5:01 PM Steve Polta <steve.polta at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Off the top of my head:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Nathaniel Dorsky: *Revenge of the Cheerleaders* (1976)—he was
>>>>> either director, co-writer, cinematographer or some combination, depending
>>>>> on whom you ask.
>>>>> 2) I've heard that Morgan Fisher was editor on *Messiah of Evil* (1973)
>>>>> although he is not credited (he appears as an actor as well).
>>>>> 3) Bay Area '60s filmmaker (who also did light shows) Jerry Abrams
>>>>> directed an exploitation doc on Bay Area porn culture of the '70s; I can't
>>>>> recall the title.
>>>>> 4) Peggy Ahwesh worked on-set on some George Romero films but I don't
>>>>> know the titles.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are surely lots more…
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 1:19 PM jared ashburn <ashburn.jared at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone know of any American avant-garde filmmakers who also
>>>>>> worked on low-budget features, B or exploitation films in the late 60s and
>>>>>> 70s? This could be in any area of production or post-production...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>> Jared
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>
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>>>> xenaudial (b/c) <https://xenaudial.bandcamp.com/>
>>>> The Occulture <http://www.theocculture.net/>
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>>> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2021 18:47:50 +0100
>>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] film & envrionmentalism
>>> Some resources:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www-filmlabs-org.translate.goog/wiki/fr/ashes_plants_principles?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=fr&_x_tr_pto=nui
>>>
>>> https://www.filmlabs.org/wiki/fr/ashes_plants_principles
>>>
>>> http://www.handmadefilm.org/writings/emulsionThoughts.html
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.filmlabs.org/docs/J-Etudes-Rennes/04-Noelie_Martin_Emulsions_artisanales_et_ecofeminisme.mp3
>>> (in French)
>>>
>>> -- Quentin Darcq
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 3:37 PM William Basquin <
>>> billbasquin at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Matt,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm interested in talking to you about this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You also might be interested in looking into Robert Schaller's
>>>> Wilderness Filmmaking Trip in the Rockies - because of his methods in the
>>>> field.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- Bill Basquin
>>>>
>>>> www.BillBasquin.info
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Matt Shaw <mshaw410 at protonmail.com>, Experimental Film
>>>> Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org>
>>>> Sent: Nov 9, 2021 6:27 AM
>>>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org>
>>>> Subject: [Frameworks] film & envrionmentalism
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Folks,
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking for discussion resources around the sustainability of
>>>> filming, cutting, and projecting on film. Preferably from filmmakers
>>>> themselves who have a commitment to environemtental stewardship in their
>>>> own lives—or whose work engages directly the more than human world.
>>>>
>>>> Writings, interviews, films that focus on other mediums could be
>>>> helpful. The personal concerns I'm thinking of would be wrestled with by
>>>> artists working in most mediums.
>>>>
>>>> So far, I have some eco-critical texts from an art history vantage
>>>> point, looking primarily at extraction colonialism. Hoping for more from
>>>> tje artists themselves.
>>>>
>>>> thank you always,
>>>> Matt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Frameworks mailing list
>>>> Frameworks at film-gallery.org
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2021 11:58:19 -0600
>>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] American avant-garde filmmakers and
>>> exploitation
>>> Excellent! Thank you, John. -JA
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 11:41 AM John Sundholm <john.sundholm at ims.su.se>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> One more: Carl Linder
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 9 nov. 2021 kl. 18:31 skrev jared ashburn <ashburn.jared at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> OK, wow, this is great! Thank you for your replies--this is quite a
>>>> list. Does anyone know if this history has been written about? I thought of
>>>> David E. James and Paul Arthur and I looked at the chapter, "Narrating Los
>>>> Angeles: Art Films and Independent Features," in James' book on minor
>>>> cinemas in LA. He accounts, indirectly, for the point that David Sherman
>>>> has made here by discussing exploitation films that exploited the
>>>> counterculture and appropriated some styles, concepts, and techniques found
>>>> in the New American Cinema and European art cinema. The chapter is useful
>>>> for my research but I am looking for other articles that might address the
>>>> history of this overlap more explicitly. If you think of something, I am
>>>> all ears. Thank you, again, I am most appreciative. -JA
>>>>
>>>> List of American Avant-Garde filmmakers who also worked on low-budget,
>>>> B and exploitation feature films in the 1960s and 70s:
>>>>
>>>> *Pat O'Neil *
>>>>
>>>> *Curtis Harrington*
>>>>
>>>> *Nathaniel Dorsky*
>>>>
>>>> *Morgan Fisher*
>>>>
>>>> *Jerry Abrams*
>>>>
>>>> *Peggy Ahwesh*
>>>>
>>>> *Jerome Hiler*
>>>>
>>>> *Betzy Bromberg*
>>>>
>>>> *Hy Hirsh*
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 10:23 PM Marc Couroux <couroux at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes! Fisher mentions Messiah of Evil, and shows a frame of it in
>>>>> Standard Gauge.
>>>>> M
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 5:01 PM Steve Polta <steve.polta at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Off the top of my head:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Nathaniel Dorsky: *Revenge of the Cheerleaders* (1976)—he was
>>>>>> either director, co-writer, cinematographer or some combination, depending
>>>>>> on whom you ask.
>>>>>> 2) I've heard that Morgan Fisher was editor on *Messiah of Evil* (1973)
>>>>>> although he is not credited (he appears as an actor as well).
>>>>>> 3) Bay Area '60s filmmaker (who also did light shows) Jerry Abrams
>>>>>> directed an exploitation doc on Bay Area porn culture of the '70s; I can't
>>>>>> recall the title.
>>>>>> 4) Peggy Ahwesh worked on-set on some George Romero films but I don't
>>>>>> know the titles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are surely lots more…
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 1:19 PM jared ashburn <ashburn.jared at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does anyone know of any American avant-garde filmmakers who also
>>>>>>> worked on low-budget features, B or exploitation films in the late 60s and
>>>>>>> 70s? This could be in any area of production or post-production...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>> Jared
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Frameworks mailing list
>>>>>>> Frameworks at film-gallery.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>> xenaudial <https://xenaudial.wordpress.com/>
>>>>> xenaudial (b/c) <https://xenaudial.bandcamp.com/>
>>>>> The Occulture <http://www.theocculture.net/>
>>>>> WKWYLF (vimeo) <https://vimeo.com/user9854186>
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>>> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2021 17:58:41 +0000
>>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] virages
>>> Hi Pip,
>>>
>>> I come back to you concerning virages.
>>>
>>> Do you know where I can find informations about it, like some people who
>>> show how to process it, or videos where you can see the result ?
>>>
>>> I searched on filmlabs.org but could'nt find anything.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Esther.
>>>
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>>> *Objet :* Re: [Frameworks] virages
>>>
>>> Colorvir was great but it has been discontinued. You can now get Berg
>>> toners:
>>> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=berg%20toner
>>>
>>> - Pip Chodorov
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 5, 2021, at 2:16 AM, Esther Laurent-Baroux <
>>> estherlaurent-baroux at hotmail.fr> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I was wondering where I can find some infos about virages for s8mm or
>>> 16mm.
>>>
>>>
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