[Frameworks] [Labos] E6 : tetenal or cinestill ?

[Josh Drake]

I also believe sells the elements from their kits individually.

https://cinestillfilm.com/products/cs6-1stdeveloper-creative-slide-d9-dynamicchrome-bath-for-high-dynamic-range-slides-powder-up-to-16-rolls?_pos=11&_sid=126767ef9&_ss=r


On Sat, Mar 26, 2022 at 1:03 AM Sandy McLennan <smclennan4 at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Regarding Cinestill: “will not tell you what it’s made from”
>
> Like all chemical manufacturers, they must publish MSDS (material safety
> data sheet). These contain the ingredients and percentages of such. Here’s
> the link to Cinestill doc
>
>
> https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0339/5113/files/Cs6_Creative_Slide_Complete_SDS_4.9.20.pdf?v=1591133835
>
>
> Sandy McLennan
> Port Sydney, Ontario, Canada
>
> On Mar 25, 2022, at 11:34 AM, Esther Laurent-Baroux <
> estherlaurent-baroux at hotmail.fr> wrote:
>
> Hello Friedemann,
> thank you for your answer.
> Indeed the chemistries of Tetenal are very good, but how then to solve
> this problem stock difference between the 1st developer and the other
> chemistries ?
>
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> *De :* Friedemann Wachsmuth <me at peaceman.de>
> *Envoyé :* vendredi 25 mars 2022 12:36
> *À :* Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org>
> *Cc :* Esther Laurent-Baroux <estherlaurent-baroux at hotmail.fr>
> *Objet :* Re: [Frameworks] [Labos] E6 : tetenal or cinestill ?
>
> It is a BW developer, but not easily replaceable. Dokumol for example
> makes strong color casts and shifts.
> I'd support Tetenal and buy their chemistry. They are pretty much the
> supplier for everybody else by now, too.
>
> Am 25.03.2022 um 10:25 schrieb Thomas Bartels <mail at thomasbartels.eu>:
>
> 
> isn't the first developer simply a b/w developer that can be replaced by
> Dokumol for example?
>
> Thomas Bartels
> https://vimeo.com/thomasbartels
>
> Esther Laurent-Baroux <estherlaurent-baroux at hotmail.fr> hat am 25.03.2022
> 09:56 geschrieben:
>
>
> Hi Frank,
>
> Thanks for your answer.
>
> Ok, we can check with Bellini, and try Cinestill.
>
> The idea was to find a first developer that we can buy separatly from the
> whole kit, while finishing the rest of the kit (the problem is that Tetenal
> does not sell it separatly).
>
> all the best,
> Esther.
>
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> *De :* Frameworks <frameworks-bounces at film-gallery.org> de la part de
> Super8 Reversal Lab <post at super8.nl>
> *Envoyé :* vendredi 25 mars 2022 08:48
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> *Objet :* Re: [Frameworks] [Labos] E6 : tetenal or cinestill ?
>
>
> Hi Esther,
>
>
> The only option I can think of is that you ask Bellini Italy to sell you
> only the first developer. Bellini makes E6 kits. You cannot purchase
> directly from Bellini but should contact the reseller in France.
>
>
> https://labo-argentique.com/fr/18-chimie-noir-et-blanc/s-4/marque_2-bellini_foto
>
> Talk to them, maybe they want to assist you.
>
>
> The first colour reversal developer of Cinestill is not the same as the
> one in an E6 kit, if you look at their info, it is clearly a ‘alternative’
> developer and they will not tell you what it is made from. The Cinestill
> chemistry is to reach a certain ‘effect’. You want a plain first developer.
> But then again it is worth a try with a test-strip.
>
>
> Changing the E6 from Tetenal to Bellini or Cinestill does not solve your
> problem if you keep on using more first developer than the color and bleach.
>
>
> Frank
>
> Den Haag
>
>
>
>
> *Van: *Frameworks <frameworks-bounces at film-gallery.org> namens Esther
> Laurent-Baroux <estherlaurent-baroux at hotmail.fr>
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> *Onderwerp: *[Frameworks] [Labos] E6 : tetenal or cinestill ?
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I am a member of Etna in Montreuil.
>
>
> We have a problem concerning the stocks of Tetenal chemistries to develop
> E6. As the 1st developer is always consumed faster than the others, each
> time we have to buy a kit to have a new bottle of 1st developer, and we
> therefore end up with large stocks of kits opened but not consumed.
>
> To remedy this, one option would be to use the E6 chemistries produced by
> Cinestill (
> https://www.freestylephoto.biz/800353-Cinestill-D9-DynamicChrome-1st-Bath-E6-Developer-for-CS6-3-Bath
> ).
>
> We wonder if we could use Cinestill chemistry for the first bath, and
> Tetenal chemistry for the other baths. Or, ditch the Tetenal kits and do
> the whole process with Cinestill.
>
> Have any of you ever used Cinestill chemistries and could give us your
> opinion? What do you think of mixing the 2 chemicals?
>
>
>
> all the best,
>
> Esther.
>
>
>
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