[Frameworks] breaking down frozen film?

[Jeff Kreines]

Remember that if you want the edge numbers to read correctly you need to wind the entire roll down first and then wind back onto the 100 foot spools. 

I’ve never heard of 1000 foot 16mm rolls — might it be 1200 feet?  Remember that each 100 foot spool holds about 107-110 feet to account for threading leader so you probably will need 11 spools if it is a 1200 foot roll. 

Jeff Kreines
Kinetta
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> On Jan 10, 2023, at 11:49 AM, robert at ontosmedia.com wrote:
> 
> I would take the condensation warning seriously!  I live in Colorado, a relatively dry place, and even here unspooling frozen film can result in its getting wet, which is not something you want to spool!  I would definitely bring it up to room temperature first, though refrigerator temperature might be warm enough.
> 
> The other issue is how old is it, and when will you be shooting it?  I once had some Color Neg film that was more than 30 years old, but that had been frozen that whole time.  I thawed it and used it, and it was fine; it had a slightly elevated fog level, but worked great.  However, within some months (less than a year) the fog increased so much as to make it unusable for any representative application.
> 
> I doubt your film is that old, but do be aware that with older film, once you thaw it, the degradation clock starts ticking!  Better not to thaw it until you're about ready to use it.
> 
> -Robert Schaller
> 
>> On 2023-01-10 09:26, Christopher Ball wrote:
>> I have handled frozen film in the arctic before (-30 to -60C), both
>> loading and shooting it, and never had a problem.  It is a bit
>> stiffer, but it is still supple.  You may want to thaw it though
>> before you open it in a warm room so you don't get condensation on
>> it...or do your loading in a cold, dry room.
>> It is no problem letting it come up to temperature inside the can,
>> then load it, and then refreeze the loaded 100 footers.
>> Christopher Ball
>>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 11:25 AM Caryn Cline <carynycline at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi Frameworkers,
>>> I've inherited a 1000 foot load of 16mm film (50D) that I need to
>>> break down into 100 foot daylight spools.  It has been kept in a
>>> freezer.  I am not ready to shoot it, but storing it in a big reel
>>> in the freezer is a problem.  How should I proceed?
>>> Thank you for your advice.
>>> CC
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