[Frameworks] breaking down frozen film?

[lindsay mcintyre]

I love that static damage.

On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 1:27 PM Jeff Kreines <jeff at kinetta.com> wrote:

> Remember that if you want the edge numbers to read correctly you need to
> wind the entire roll down first and then wind back onto the 100 foot
> spools.
>
> I’ve never heard of 1000 foot 16mm rolls — might it be 1200 feet?
> Remember that each 100 foot spool holds about 107-110 feet to account for
> threading leader so you probably will need 11 spools if it is a 1200 foot
> roll.
>
> Jeff Kreines
> Kinetta
> jeff at kinetta.com
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>
> Sent from iPhone.
>
> > On Jan 10, 2023, at 11:49 AM, robert at ontosmedia.com wrote:
> >
> > I would take the condensation warning seriously!  I live in Colorado, a
> relatively dry place, and even here unspooling frozen film can result in
> its getting wet, which is not something you want to spool!  I would
> definitely bring it up to room temperature first, though refrigerator
> temperature might be warm enough.
> >
> > The other issue is how old is it, and when will you be shooting it?  I
> once had some Color Neg film that was more than 30 years old, but that had
> been frozen that whole time.  I thawed it and used it, and it was fine; it
> had a slightly elevated fog level, but worked great.  However, within some
> months (less than a year) the fog increased so much as to make it unusable
> for any representative application.
> >
> > I doubt your film is that old, but do be aware that with older film,
> once you thaw it, the degradation clock starts ticking!  Better not to thaw
> it until you're about ready to use it.
> >
> > -Robert Schaller
> >
> >> On 2023-01-10 09:26, Christopher Ball wrote:
> >> I have handled frozen film in the arctic before (-30 to -60C), both
> >> loading and shooting it, and never had a problem.  It is a bit
> >> stiffer, but it is still supple.  You may want to thaw it though
> >> before you open it in a warm room so you don't get condensation on
> >> it...or do your loading in a cold, dry room.
> >> It is no problem letting it come up to temperature inside the can,
> >> then load it, and then refreeze the loaded 100 footers.
> >> Christopher Ball
> >>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 11:25 AM Caryn Cline <carynycline at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> Hi Frameworkers,
> >>> I've inherited a 1000 foot load of 16mm film (50D) that I need to
> >>> break down into 100 foot daylight spools.  It has been kept in a
> >>> freezer.  I am not ready to shoot it, but storing it in a big reel
> >>> in the freezer is a problem.  How should I proceed?
> >>> Thank you for your advice.
> >>> CC
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