[Frameworks] Call For Entries - 29th Chicago Underground Film Festival

[Fred Camper]

Roger, thanks for posting something with some facts in it.

I stayed out of this because I have not had any dealings with this 
festival in years, due to a shift in my own focus. But in the past,  
Bryan Wendorf has always acted with integrity, at least with respect to me.

I feel the need to point out the contrast between the two negative 
comments, which came with absolutely zero facts or reasons, and 
Roger's.  If someone posts their experience, even with no way of judging 
their post factually, one can still make certain inferences.  Late 
resplies? Print not returned? Then Bryan could respond. Your films 
always get rejected? That is at least some information. Everyone knows 
festivals do not accept everything. Suppose one reader of this post 
knows the films of the rejectee, and thinks they are unusually fine and 
original. Many years of rejections might make the reader think 
negatively about the festival's selection process. If the reader 
dislikes the same films, the contrary might be true.

What bothers me is that in the last four years, negative comments issued 
in one liners with no reasons and no facts have not only become common 
in our political discourse, but seem to have spread into other fields. 
It saddens me to see them on this list. In fact, full disclosure, one of 
these two posters issued a comment against me a couple of years ago, 
provoked by nothing as far as I could tell.

Fred Camper
Chicago


On 1/3/2022 9:31 AM, Beebe, Roger W. wrote:
>
> Not every festival is for everyone, but I’ve had great experiences at 
> Chicago Underground, where I’ve screened regularly over the past two 
> decades, including this fall’s in-person festival.  The festival has 
> good projection, solid audiences, is well attended by accepted 
> filmmakers, and I always discover some interesting new work when I 
> go.  I’m planning on going again this summer (pandemic permitting). 
> I’d encourage folks to look at what has screened there in past years 
> and assess whether it looks like a potentially good fit for your 
> work.  If it does, I’d encourage you to submit.
>
> There aren’t that many experimental-focused festivals out there, and 
> for my money, this is one of the really good ones.
>
> FWIW,
>
> Roger
>
> *From: *Frameworks <frameworks-bounces at film-gallery.org> on behalf of 
> Bruce Cooper <brucecooper77 at gmail.com>
> *Reply-To: *Experimental Film Discussion List 
> <frameworks at film-gallery.org>
> *Date: *Monday, January 3, 2022 at 8:16 AM
> *To: *Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at film-gallery.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [Frameworks] Call For Entries - 29th Chicago 
> Underground Film Festival
>
> I completely agree Dominic.
>
> On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 at 11:05 PM Dominic Angerame 
> <dominic.angerame at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Do not waste ur time with this festival.
>
>     Dominic Angerame
>
>
>
>         On Jan 2, 2022, at 4:55 PM, Bryan Wendorf
>         <bryan.wendorf at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>         Submissions are now open for the 29th Chicago Underground Film
>         Festival to be held July 13-17, 2022 at the Logan Theater In
>         Chicago.
>
>         Deadlines
>
>         February 1, 2022 Earlybird Deadline
>
>         March 5, 2022 Regular Deadline
>         March 25, 2022 Late Deadline
>
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>         Bryan Wendorf
>         Programmer and Artistic Director
>         Chicago Underground Film Festival
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